Opening Word erases contents of the Mac clipboard !!!

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MacWordXY

Hi

Opening Word erases the contents of the Mac clipboard !!

System: Mac OS X 10.2.8 on PowerMac G4/500 (AGP) with 1 GB RAM booting from external FireWire hard disk

If I copy a word from. say, my Eudora e-mail client I can paste it, say, in my Safari web browser URL field. Yet, if right then I open Word v.X 10.1.4 (Office 10.1.5) the contents of the clipboard are erased and I cannot paste anything unless of course I copy again, in which case I can paste of course everywhere

If I then quit Word I can paste the contents of the clipboard everywhere. But if then I open Word, the clipboard contents are erased and I cannot paste such copied word anywhere

What is going on? As far as I remember this issue arose after upgrading from Mac OS X 10.2.6 to 10.2.8

Anyone has this problem? Any way to fix it? Thanks.
 
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Dayo Mitchell

On a PC, this problem is usually caused by an Add-in. Test yours by
removing each in turn?

Dayo
 
M

MacWordXY

Thanks Dayo

Absolutely right

The culprit was "/Applications/Microsoft Office X/Office/Startup/Word/EndNote 7 CWYW commands.dot"

Thanks again
Best regards,
 
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Dayo Mitchell

Aha! Another problem to blame on Endnote. PLEASE submit a report of this
to Endnote, they do fix stuff and release patches, and they have messed up
so many things with that CWYW add-in.

Here is the link to ask a Technical Support question, sadly it is a bit of a
hassle but seems to be the only option for reporting bugs:
http://www.endnote.com/support/entechform.asp

Dayo
 
C

Clive Huggan

Hello everyone else other than [MacWord XY],

Am I the only person who receives XY's posts all in one paragraph, i.e. with
the paragraph returns not functional? Maybe it's only people like me, on
Outlook Express and OS 9, or something. But if not, can we help XY to
eliminate this, thereby encouraging more responses/participation?
[Go strangely silent here, anticipating barrage of advice on how to
configure Outlook Express properly -- it's not my strong point. And Beth
will urge me enthusiastically to use Entourage...]

And hello XY,

Only a minor thing, but ... any chance of using your real name, since you
look like being a regular presence? (which is welcome -- you have posted
some very interesting queries). That has practical advantages. People who
respond to you get to know you by a regular name that's easily remembered,
and they can use their memory of your previous queries to frame a better
reply. Totally impersonal alphabetical pseudonyms make that hard to do -- I
get confused between the XYs, F.A.s and PDQs. By using your real name you
are not jeopardizing your privacy, since you are posting via
(e-mail address removed). Above all, it's friendlier. :)

<end rant; get back to work>

--Clive Huggan

=====================================================

Thanks Dayo
Click to expand...

Absolutely right

The culprit was "/Applications/Microsoft
Office X/Office/Startup/Word/EndNote 7 CWYW commands.dot"
Click to expand...

Thanks again
Best
 
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Dayo Mitchell

Clive Huggan said:
Hello everyone else other than [MacWord XY],

Am I the only person who receives XY's posts all in one paragraph, i.e. with
the paragraph returns not functional?
Click to expand...
Not having that problem on Entourage....
And hello XY,

Only a minor thing, but ... any chance of using your real name, since you
look like being a regular presence? (which is welcome -- you have posted
some very interesting queries).
Click to expand...
Indeed, although I can sympathize with the desire for total anonymity, which
is hard to come by in the academic world...

Dayo
 
J

Jim Gordon MVP

Hi Clive,

XY's posts look fine to me in OE 4.5

-Jim Gordon
Mac MVP

All responses should be made to this newsgroup within the same thread.
Thanks.

About Microsoft MVPs:
http://www.mvps.org/

Before posting a "new" topic please be sure to search Google Groups to see
if your question has already been answered.


----------
Hello everyone else other than [MacWord XY],

Am I the only person who receives XY's posts all in one paragraph, i.e. with
the paragraph returns not functional? Maybe it's only people like me, on
Outlook Express and OS 9, or something. But if not, can we help XY to
eliminate this, thereby encouraging more responses/participation?
[Go strangely silent here, anticipating barrage of advice on how to
configure Outlook Express properly -- it's not my strong point. And Beth
will urge me enthusiastically to use Entourage...]

And hello XY,

Only a minor thing, but ... any chance of using your real name, since you
look like being a regular presence? (which is welcome -- you have posted
some very interesting queries). That has practical advantages. People who
respond to you get to know you by a regular name that's easily remembered,
and they can use their memory of your previous queries to frame a better
reply. Totally impersonal alphabetical pseudonyms make that hard to do -- I
get confused between the XYs, F.A.s and PDQs. By using your real name you
are not jeopardizing your privacy, since you are posting via
(e-mail address removed). Above all, it's friendlier. :)

<end rant; get back to work>

--Clive Huggan

=====================================================

Thanks Dayo,
Click to expand...

Absolutely right!

The culprit was "/Applications/Microsoft
Office X/Office/Startup/Word/EndNote 7 CWYW commands.dot".
Click to expand...

Thanks again.
Best
regards,
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
C

Clive Huggan

Thanks for getting back, Jim and Dayo,

I'm using OE 5.02, OS 9.2.2. Odd that XY's posts are the only one. If it
were more than just one I would just have to succumb to Beth's advocacy of
Entourage...

.... but then, modern life has too few mysteries. I think I'll leave it.

--Clive

Hi Clive,

XY's posts look fine to me in OE 4.5

-Jim Gordon
Mac MVP

All responses should be made to this newsgroup within the same thread.
Thanks.

About Microsoft MVPs:
http://www.mvps.org/

Before posting a "new" topic please be sure to search Google Groups to see
if your question has already been answered.


----------
Hello everyone else other than [MacWord XY],

Am I the only person who receives XY's posts all in one paragraph, i.e. with
the paragraph returns not functional? Maybe it's only people like me, on
Outlook Express and OS 9, or something. But if not, can we help XY to
eliminate this, thereby encouraging more responses/participation?
[Go strangely silent here, anticipating barrage of advice on how to
configure Outlook Express properly -- it's not my strong point. And Beth
will urge me enthusiastically to use Entourage...]

And hello XY,

Only a minor thing, but ... any chance of using your real name, since you
look like being a regular presence? (which is welcome -- you have posted
some very interesting queries). That has practical advantages. People who
respond to you get to know you by a regular name that's easily remembered,
and they can use their memory of your previous queries to frame a better
reply. Totally impersonal alphabetical pseudonyms make that hard to do -- I
get confused between the XYs, F.A.s and PDQs. By using your real name you
are not jeopardizing your privacy, since you are posting via
(e-mail address removed). Above all, it's friendlier. :)

<end rant; get back to work>

--Clive Huggan

=====================================================

Thanks Dayo,
Click to expand...

Absolutely right!

The culprit was "/Applications/Microsoft
Office X/Office/Startup/Word/EndNote 7 CWYW commands.dot".
Click to expand...

Thanks again.
Best
regards,
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
P

Paul Berkowitz

XY is sending from Microsoft CDO on Windows, which is using UTF-8 (8-bit
Unicode) Character format but encoding the messages as 7-bit (US-ASCII)
because there are no non-ASCII 8-bit or Unicode characters (just simple
letters without accents, numbers, regular punctuation) in his messages.

OE 4.5 may not know anything about UTF-8: I'm not sure, so perhaps it just
reads it as ASCII. OE 5 may have had a less than perfect UTF-8
understanding. Entourage (all versions) gets it right. OE may looking for
the Unicode carriage return character, whereas Entourage simply seems to
read it as plain text ASCII since it sees no special 8-bit characters.

XY's messages seem to be in format=flowed format. His longer sentences and
paragraphs soft wrap at the window's edge, like HTML, although he sent in
plain text. (This is in Entourage X.) Entourage can read format=flowed
although it doesn't write it. I'm not sure about OE. I would guess that
Entourage honors double-returns as paragraph separators, but OE 5 didn't
know how to do that. Maybe OE 4.5 just hard-wraps the text(?). Or else it
was a bug in OE 5, fixed in Entourage. Just possibly the UTF-8 character
format impinges on this, with the carriage returns not being recognized.

If you go to View/Source, Clive, does it look any different?

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

Please "Reply To Newsgroup" to reply to this message. Emails will be
ignored.

PLEASE always state which version of Entourage you are using - 2001 or X.
It's often impossible to answer your questions otherwise.

From: Clive Huggan <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.word
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:13:03 +1100
Subject: Problem with post format in my OE 5.02 [was Re: Opening Word erases
...]

Thanks for getting back, Jim and Dayo,

I'm using OE 5.02, OS 9.2.2. Odd that XY's posts are the only one. If it
were more than just one I would just have to succumb to Beth's advocacy of
Entourage...

... but then, modern life has too few mysteries. I think I'll leave it.


--Clive

Hi Clive,

XY's posts look fine to me in OE 4.5

-Jim Gordon
Mac MVP

All responses should be made to this newsgroup within the same thread.
Thanks.

About Microsoft MVPs:
http://www.mvps.org/

Before posting a "new" topic please be sure to search Google Groups to see
if your question has already been answered.


----------
Hello everyone else other than [MacWord XY],

Am I the only person who receives XY's posts all in one paragraph, i.e. with
the paragraph returns not functional? Maybe it's only people like me, on
Outlook Express and OS 9, or something. But if not, can we help XY to
eliminate this, thereby encouraging more responses/participation?
[Go strangely silent here, anticipating barrage of advice on how to
configure Outlook Express properly -- it's not my strong point. And Beth
will urge me enthusiastically to use Entourage...]

And hello XY,

Only a minor thing, but ... any chance of using your real name, since you
look like being a regular presence? (which is welcome -- you have posted
some very interesting queries). That has practical advantages. People who
respond to you get to know you by a regular name that's easily remembered,
and they can use their memory of your previous queries to frame a better
reply. Totally impersonal alphabetical pseudonyms make that hard to do -- I
get confused between the XYs, F.A.s and PDQs. By using your real name you
are not jeopardizing your privacy, since you are posting via
(e-mail address removed). Above all, it's friendlier. :)

<end rant; get back to work>

--Clive Huggan

=====================================================

Thanks Dayo,

Absolutely right!

The culprit was "/Applications/Microsoft
Office X/Office/Startup/Word/EndNote 7 CWYW commands.dot".

Thanks again.
Best
regards,
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
C

Clive Huggan

Hello Paul,

Going to View -> Source doesn't make it look any different, Paul -- but with
your excellent revelation of possible causes, I will certainly go to sleep
without a care on my mind tonight!

Many thanks!

Clive
 
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MacXordXY real name is...

J

John McGhie [MVP Office Systems -- Word]

Hi Clive:

No, you are not the only one :) Everyone in the world is *supposed* to be
receiving posts like that :)

The Internet RFC for Newsreaders requires that newsreaders to do set a line
length on send: it is the responsibility of the receiving newsreader to fold
the lines on display.

However, many newsreaders do not wrap the lines of the source post is in
HTML, concluding that the sending application would be more likely to be
following the Browser RFC in that case and would thus have set a line
length.

Unfortunately, it's a bit of a lottery whether the HTML sending application
actually *did* set a line length. Outlook Express treats its news as "news"
and we know that it doesn't set the line length if the user sends in HTML.
There are some others that do it that way, and some that set a line length.

I know that nothing I say will appease Clive, but the rest of us may benefit
from the knowledge :)

Cheers


This responds to article
from "Clive Huggan" said:
Hello everyone else other than [MacWord XY],

Am I the only person who receives XY's posts all in one paragraph, i.e. with
the paragraph returns not functional? Maybe it's only people like me, on
Outlook Express and OS 9, or something. But if not, can we help XY to
eliminate this, thereby encouraging more responses/participation?
[Go strangely silent here, anticipating barrage of advice on how to
configure Outlook Express properly -- it's not my strong point. And Beth
will urge me enthusiastically to use Entourage...]

And hello XY,

Only a minor thing, but ... any chance of using your real name, since you
look like being a regular presence? (which is welcome -- you have posted
some very interesting queries). That has practical advantages. People who
respond to you get to know you by a regular name that's easily remembered,
and they can use their memory of your previous queries to frame a better
reply. Totally impersonal alphabetical pseudonyms make that hard to do -- I
get confused between the XYs, F.A.s and PDQs. By using your real name you
are not jeopardizing your privacy, since you are posting via
(e-mail address removed). Above all, it's friendlier. :)

<end rant; get back to work>

--Clive Huggan

=====================================================

Thanks Dayo,
Click to expand...

Absolutely right!

The culprit was "/Applications/Microsoft
Office X/Office/Startup/Word/EndNote 7 CWYW commands.dot".
Click to expand...

Thanks again.
Best
regards,
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

--

Please respond only to the newsgroup to preserve the thread.

John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 
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Beth Rosengard

Hi Tony Curtis (really ?? :),

What do you use for email? Is it Entourage? If so, you can use it for
reading newsgroups and it's a whole lot easier and faster than using *any*
web interface. (If you don't like Entourage for some weird reason :),
there are also dedicated newsreaders that offer even more features.)

If you'd like more information on this, post back and I'll point you in the
right direction.

--
Beth Rosengard
Mac MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/WordMac/index.htm>
Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>
 
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Dayo Mitchell

Hi Tony,

I reported your problem to Endnote, since I had to put in my own complaint
anyhow, and they got back to me very fast. But the tech said he was unable
to reproduce the problem (using OS 10.2.8, EN 7, and Office 10.1.5), so
asked for more information. Specifically, "let me know exactly what versions
of word and Mac os you are running. Are you opening a specific word
document? if you open a blank document and try pasting, does that work?"

So if you want to take up the issue with them, it sounds like something they
would be interested in resolving and working with you on. The form just
asks for name and email, is not that much trouble.

Dayo
 
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TonyCurtis (was MacWordXY)

Beth

Thanks

I use (read “loveâ€) Eudora Mail Pro 6.02. As far as I know I cannot use it for newsgroups. A shame. But on the other hand I do not want to get “spam†either posting my eMail... That is why I use the web instead..
For News I have sometimes used Thoth and now Unison

---You wrote
Hi Tony Curtis (really ?? :),

What do you use for email? Is it Entourage? If so, you can use it for
reading newsgroups and it's a whole lot easier and faster than using *any*
web interface. (If you don't like Entourage for some weird reason :),
there are also dedicated newsreaders that offer even more features.)

If you'd like more information on this, post back and I'll point you in the
right direction.
---
 
T

TonyCurtis

Hi Beth

Thanks. I guess it is a matter of personal preferences. For me it is easier to use a web browser because it opens and works faster (newsgroups take ages to open), you do not need a news server (free ones are difficult to spot or maintain) and in any case my web browser is always open and handy because I use it also for other tasks

As said, I guess it is a matter of personal preference

Thanks anyway

--You wrote
Hi Tony,

You could use Entourage or a dedicated newsreader just for reading
newsgroups. I'm making the point so strongly just because it's so much
easier that way.

As for the spam issue, in Entourage you can set up a send-only dummy (spoof)
email account. Can you do the same in Thoth or Unison?
---
 
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Clive Huggan

I know that nothing I say will appease Clive, but the rest of us may benefit
from the knowledge :)
Click to expand...
Harumph! (or words to that effect)!

And to think I had just, out of respect, slid across the right-hand border
of the "From" column in my Outlook Express to accommodate your brand-new,
grandiose MVP category title!

I'll slide it back now.

[Thinks: that's telling him!]

;-) <-- (and I rarely say that)

--Clive
 
J

John McGhie [MVP - Word]

{Chortle} Yeah, it's a pain, isn't it. I think I will go back to being
just "MVP - Word".

Office System is the new label for PC Word, which has now acquired ideas
above its station and become an "Office System" product. So now all the
PC-accredited MVPs are branded as Office System ...


This responds to article
from "Clive Huggan" said:
I know that nothing I say will appease Clive, but the rest of us may benefit
from the knowledge :)
Click to expand...
Harumph! (or words to that effect)!

And to think I had just, out of respect, slid across the right-hand border
of the "From" column in my Outlook Express to accommodate your brand-new,
grandiose MVP category title!

I'll slide it back now.

[Thinks: that's telling him!]

;-) <-- (and I rarely say that)

--Clive
Click to expand...

--

Please respond only to the newsgroup to preserve the thread.

John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 
H

Hylton Boothroyd

Clive Huggan said:
Am I the only person who receives XY's posts all in one paragraph
Click to expand...

No. MacSOUP on OS 9.2.2.

It's quite amazing that the material that arrives here can be read
intelligibly in anything! XY's web page depends on assumptions that
don't get transmitted to the world in general.

Yes, it flows in the Mac technical sense. But no, it fails to provide
any help in structural appearance, just line after line trundling along.
 

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