Outlook News Reader

[Alan Jay Mazer]

I am unable to find the inconn that is supposedto be
available int he custom tool bar features to add the
Outlook News Reader to my GO pull down menu. I had it
working once actually in the stanndard tool bar as a
button but all of a sudden it opened a folder and did
notopenthe application....yes - I know you can use Outlok
Express for news reading but I want to use the OUtlook
2003 NewsReader and can not even find the executable to
create at shortcut for it on my desktop

 

[dmac]

I can't remember the steps to add, but outlook express IS the outlook 2003
newsreader.
please correct me if I am wrong

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David MacLeod
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Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB
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[Guest]

yes, you are wrong- there is a seperate Outlook News
Reader from Outlook Express and I just can not get to it
again..

 

[dmac]

this may not help you, but I used command line to create shortcut on
desktop.
"C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe" /newsreader
for some reason the news "icon" in my outlook 2003 seems to disappear at
will and I occasionally have to use it by clicking shortcut.
once I did this and clicked it I was asked if I want to use OE as default
newsreader. after clicking yes and don't ask again the news command
re-appeared in my toolbar.
don't know why.
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David MacLeod
Etna, Maine USA
P4 2.8 OC to 3.13
1 GB DDR 466
Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB
2 Seagate 120 RAID 0

 

[Cerridwen]

yes, you are wrong- there is a seperate Outlook News
Reader from Outlook Express and I just can not get to it
again..

No, he is *NOT* wrong - he is 100% correct. Outlook has /never/ had its own
reader, it has always used OE. Do do some home work before posting garbage.

 

[Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP]]

Hi Cerridwen ([email protected]),
in the newsgroups
you posted:

|| (e-mail address removed) wrote:
||| yes, you are wrong- there is a seperate Outlook News
||| Reader from Outlook Express and I just can not get to it
||| again..
||
|| No, he is *NOT* wrong - he is 100% correct. Outlook has /never/ had
|| its own reader, it has always used OE. Do do some home work before
|| posting garbage.

Supposedly you can get news feeds using Outlook with Exchange?

--
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Microsoft Office Publisher MVP
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This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.

 

[dmac]

this is odd.
when you go control panel-internet options-programs and click outlook
express as newsreader the go-news command reappears. when you first start it
you are asked if you want to use the OUTLOOK NEWSREADER (not outlook
express) as default. if you pick yes the news command is not available in
the go menu. if you had already added it it points you to a bunch of dll
files.
if you pick no and don't ask again the news button is there and works
correctly. it almost seems like there was supposed to be an incorporated
reader separate of OE. Maybe this was for exchange services as Brian just
mentioned.

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David MacLeod
Etna, Maine USA
P4 2.8 OC to 3.13
1 GB DDR 466
Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB
2 Seagate 120 RAID 0

 

[Donald McDaniel]

this is odd.
when you go control panel-internet options-programs and click outlook
express as newsreader the go-news command reappears. when you first

Microsoft Outlook never has had, does not, and never will have, an
integrated newsreader. It has always, does now, and always shall, use the
default Windows newsreader, no matter what it is.

In the default case (no other newsreader installed in Windows), Outlook
calls an instance of Outlook Express with the switch "/outnews", and
temporarily labels it "Outlook Newsreader".

When you call the "Outlook Newsreader" via "Go>News" (or "View>Goto>News" in
versions before Outlook 2003,) and Outlook Express is the only newsreader
installed in Windows, it does the above (that is, call an instance of
Outlook Express with the "/outnews" switch and temporarily labels it the
"Outlook Newsreader".)

You want proof of all this? Install any other newsreader as the default
newsreader in "Control Panel|Internet Options|Programs tab>Newsgroups" then
start Microsoft Outlook 2003 and choose "Go>News" from the Menu. I
guarantee you it will start the newsreader you installed (if you installed
it correctly.)

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[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Through the NNTP protocol in public folders, yes. But only with Exchange
server actually pulling the news via NNTP and then displaying them in a
public folder. Outlook does none of the work at all.

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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Brian Kvalheim -
[MS MVP] asked:

| Hi Cerridwen ([email protected]),
| in the newsgroups
| you posted:
|
||| (e-mail address removed) wrote:
|||| yes, you are wrong- there is a seperate Outlook News
|||| Reader from Outlook Express and I just can not get to it
|||| again..
|||
||| No, he is *NOT* wrong - he is 100% correct. Outlook has /never/ had
||| its own reader, it has always used OE. Do do some home work before
||| posting garbage.
|
| Supposedly you can get news feeds using Outlook with Exchange?

 

[Eric Lawrence [MSFT]]

<<Microsoft Outlook never has had, does not, and never will have, an
integrated newsreader. It has always, does now, and always shall, use the
default Windows newsreader.>>

Really? You have a crystal ball out there? ;-)

Eric Lawrence
Program Manager
Assistance and Worldwide Services

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

 

[Donald McDaniel]

<<Microsoft Outlook never has had, does not, and never will have, an
integrated newsreader. It has always, does now, and always shall,
use the default Windows newsreader.>>

Really? You have a crystal ball out there? ;-)

Eric Lawrence
Program Manager
Assistance and Worldwide Services

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.

So Microsoft IS going to add a newsreader to Outlook? Tell us about it, Mr.
Lawrence...We're just dying to hear...

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[Brian Kvalheim - [MS MVP]]

Hi Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
([email protected]),
in the newsgroups
you posted:

|| Through the NNTP protocol in public folders, yes. But only with
|| Exchange server actually pulling the news via NNTP and then
|| displaying them in a public folder. Outlook does none of the work
|| at all.

That is what I read. Thanks Milly. So, it's using Exchange to dump the
messages in a folder in Outlook. Can you actually reply to them from within
outlook, sending them through exchange?

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Microsoft Office Publisher MVP
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http://www.kvalheim.org

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Don't know, I never tried since so few news feeds allow pulls
(microsoft.public does not currently allow pulls).

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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Brian Kvalheim -
[MS MVP] asked:

| Hi Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
| ([email protected]),
| in the newsgroups
| you posted:
|
||| Through the NNTP protocol in public folders, yes. But only with
||| Exchange server actually pulling the news via NNTP and then
||| displaying them in a public folder. Outlook does none of the work
||| at all.
|
| That is what I read. Thanks Milly. So, it's using Exchange to dump the
| messages in a folder in Outlook. Can you actually reply to them from
| within outlook, sending them through exchange?

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Please note the smiley face on the post.

As far as I know, and we Outlook MVPs are pretty much in the loop on added
features, this will never be added to the current vision of Outlook.

Please note the emphasis on "current version" when reading this.


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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. Due to
the (insert latest virus name here) virus, all mail sent to my personal
account will be deleted without reading.

After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer, Donald McDaniel
asked:

| Eric Lawrence [MSFT] wrote:
|| <<Microsoft Outlook never has had, does not, and never will have, an
|| integrated newsreader. It has always, does now, and always shall,
|| use the default Windows newsreader.>>
||
|| Really? You have a crystal ball out there? ;-)
||
|| Eric Lawrence
|| Program Manager
|| Assistance and Worldwide Services
||
|| This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
|| rights.
|
| So Microsoft IS going to add a newsreader to Outlook? Tell us about
| it, Mr. Lawrence...We're just dying to hear...

 

[dmac]

you seemed to misunderstand my post. I know Outlook Express is the
newsreader. I stated that Outlook asks you if you want Outlook News ( again,
not Outlook Express) to be default reader, and if you pick yes the news
commands either disappear from go menu or don't work correctly. if you've
done that you HAVE to go to control panel to select Outlook Express to be
default. then the news button re-appears and works correctly if you pick NO
when outlook first starts the newsreader.
Since Outlook doesn't have a built in newsreader, I would have called this a
bug if I were beta testing this.

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David MacLeod
Etna, Maine USA
P4 2.8 OC to 3.13
1 GB DDR 466
Radeon 9800 Pro 256 MB
2 Seagate 120 RAID 0

 

[Donald McDaniel]

Please note the smiley face on the post.

As far as I know, and we Outlook MVPs are pretty much in the loop on
added features, this will never be added to the current vision of
Outlook.

Please note the emphasis on "current version" when reading this.

Are you and Mr. Lawrence trying to beat around the bush and tell us in a
tongue-in-cheek way that an upcoming version of Outlook WILL have native
newsreader capabilities? I can understand that --- non-disclosure
agreements, and all.

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[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Let me put it this way - all of the information I have been given (that I
can disclose) leads me to believe that the 2 programs will always remain
separate. Corporations don't want it in Outlook (Outlook being the premier
client for Exchange) and removing from the Free Outlook Express would be a
disaster. Additionally, why code the same function for both programs??
Look at the current outcry once Microsoft decided to stop coding an
additional Office Shortcut Bar whose functions are available in the
operating system.

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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact.


After searching google.groups.com and finding no answer:
Donald McDaniel <[email protected]> asked:
| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook] wrote:
|| Please note the smiley face on the post.
||
|| As far as I know, and we Outlook MVPs are pretty much in the loop on
|| added features, this will never be added to the current vision of
|| Outlook.
||
|| Please note the emphasis on "current version" when reading this.
||
|
| Are you and Mr. Lawrence trying to beat around the bush and tell us
| in a tongue-in-cheek way that an upcoming version of Outlook WILL
| have native newsreader capabilities? I can understand that ---
| non-disclosure agreements, and all.

 

[Beth Melton]

So Microsoft IS going to add a newsreader to Outlook? Tell us about it, Mr.
Lawrence...We're just dying to hear...

Ah, but Donald, the first thing I learned when posting to the
newsgroups is you can never say "never". You have to leave room for
exceptions and what you may not know. ;-)

Case in point, my reply is one situation you *can* say 'never'. <BG>

~Beth Melton

 

[Donald McDaniel]

Ah, but Donald, the first thing I learned when posting to the
newsgroups is you can never say "never". You have to leave room for
exceptions and what you may not know. ;-)

Case in point, my reply is one situation you *can* say 'never'. <BG>

~Beth Melton

You're right, I guess. Who knows, maybe Microsoft IS going to add
newsreader capabilities to one of its future Outlook products. Then again,
the chances are it won't

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