Outputting Composite CMYK

C

Charles R

I am using Publisher 2003 SP-1 and Adobe Acrobat 7.0.5 Standard. When I
attempt to output composite CMYK by printing to the Adobe PDF printer, I get
an error message saying "This document failed to print." The message appears
at the point at which Publisher has completed the process of sending data to
the printer and at the point at which Distiller would normally begin to
distill the PostScript output. No log file or PDF is created. I can
successfully print to a PostScript file and manually distill the PostScript
file without a problem. Why can't I outout composite CMYK directly to the
Adobe PDF printer?
 
M

Mary Sauer

This is the solution that was give on the prepress newsgroup
A few simple steps:

In Publisher:
a. Select "Generic Color PS for Commercial Printing" as your printer output.
b. On "File/Print/Advanced settings" select Composite CMYK.
c. Tools/Commercial Printing Tools/Color printing select "Process colors
CMYK".

Print your pages to a output file with the ending .ps.

Open Adobe Acrobat Distiller and select "Press Quality" settings, or better
PDF/X-1a if you have the professional version (check with your printer).
Open your .ps file, and it will produce your .pdf
The resulting PDF file should be separated CMYK!!!

Regards Terje
 
T

Terje Martinsen

Well Mary, that is the solution he is using, but he wants to print directly
to Adobe PDF.
Why it's not working, I don't know, but may be a missing update or
something.
Early Pub2003 (not SP1) had this problem.

I have recently found that Acrobat do a better job of converting to CMYK, so
I follow these procedures:

Work the complete Publisher file in RGB!
Then, before I print, I go Tools/Commercial Printing Tools/Color, select the
Color tab and check that black is really black.
In RGB that would be (0, 0, 0).
Seems like publisher somethimes think that true black is (33, 33, 33).
The latter would produce "black" on all four plates, and any misalignement
during printing would make it look awfull.
If I find this, I simply change this to (0, 0, 0).

Then, I print directly to Adobe PDF using the PDF/X1-a profile (which does
the conversion).
The result is composite CMYK, with far better separations than Publisher
produces.

You need Acrobat 7.0 Professional to do this (probably 6.0 Prof will do the
job).

About time someone with good English language write a FAQ (not me!).

Regards
Terje
 
M

Mary Sauer

Hi Terje, I've never used a commercial printer. I pasted your other reply because it
sounded so good!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. There is a Publisher web site,
you could write a FAQ and I'm sure David would post it.
 
T

Terje Martinsen

Well, as I said, not me!
My English is not good enough, and for sure my spare time nill (for the time
being).
But later perhaps?

I would like Charles R to report back his result!

Regards Terje

Off-topic: Charles R? R for Rex? THE Charles, prince of England? No, he is
not using Publisher?
 
C

Charles R

Thank you, Mary and Terje, for your helpful suggestions. In researching this
problem, I found information in a Microsoft publication titled "Prepress
Reference Guide" stating that "Publisher 2003 is incompatible with Acrobat
Distiller versions 5 and 6" and presumably with the Adobe PDF printer in
version 7 as well. It looks like the workaround is to print to a PostScript
file and manually distill the PostScript file. Thanks again!

Off topic: Yes, Terje, R for Rex. I fancy I have royal blood in my veins.
Charles, Prince of Wales, however, would only be Charles P (P for the Latin
"princeps" or prince) until he ascends the throne at which time he could take
whatever name he wishes to use as king. My guess is that he might opt for
George VII rather than his own given name.
 
T

Terje M

Acrobat 7.0 Professional works well with Publisher 2003, and even
integrates seamlessly.
I have just produced (and have printed) a 64 page color magazine printing
directly to PDF Printer.
I will read tgat guide though!

regards
Terje
 
B

Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]

Terje, what do you think about Publisher 12 offering PDF now?

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
T

Terje M

Hello Brian!

Looking forward to it, if it matches the "standards" set by Adobe!
PDF is mainly for handing off to printers (in the Publisher world), in my
opinion.

Always eager to try a new version.
Have signed up for beta testing, but have not heard anything yet.

Have a nice weekend!

Terje
 
B

Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]

I am not 100% sure if beta 1 (due out this month) is a public beta or not,
but I will GUARANTEE you that I will do everything in my powers to be sure
you do get on the Publisher 12 beta.

While the entire Office 12 line pretty much has the same PDF functionality
throughout, Pub 12 will have a bit more "enhanced" PDF options. But it will
meet Acrobat 6.0 PDF output standards.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
 
T

Terje M

Fine if I could have the beta. Have signed up through my passport account.

Acro 6.0 PDF sounds good (enough)!

Regards
Terje
 
B

Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]

Terje, can you drop me an email at (e-mail address removed) so I can submit you
on the Publisher end for the beta as well?

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
Terje M said:
Fine if I could have the beta. Have signed up through my passport account.

Acro 6.0 PDF sounds good (enough)!

Regards
Terje


Brian Kvalheim said:
I am not 100% sure if beta 1 (due out this month) is a public beta or not,
but I will GUARANTEE you that I will do everything in my powers to be sure
you do get on the Publisher 12 beta.

While the entire Office 12 line pretty much has the same PDF
functionality throughout, Pub 12 will have a bit more "enhanced" PDF
options. But it will meet Acrobat 6.0 PDF output standards.

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
Terje M said:
Hello Brian!

Looking forward to it, if it matches the "standards" set by Adobe!
PDF is mainly for handing off to printers (in the Publisher world), in
my opinion.

Always eager to try a new version.
Have signed up for beta testing, but have not heard anything yet.

Have a nice weekend!

Terje


"Brian Kvalheim [MSFT MVP]" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Terje, what do you think about Publisher 12 offering PDF now?

--
Brian Kvalheim
Microsoft Publisher MVP
http://www.publishermvps.com

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
confers no rights.
"Terje M" <tema95(nospam)online.no> wrote in message
Acrobat 7.0 Professional works well with Publisher 2003, and even
integrates seamlessly.
I have just produced (and have printed) a 64 page color magazine
printing directly to PDF Printer.
I will read tgat guide though!

regards
Terje


"Charles R" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Thank you, Mary and Terje, for your helpful suggestions. In
researching this
problem, I found information in a Microsoft publication titled
"Prepress
Reference Guide" stating that "Publisher 2003 is incompatible with
Acrobat
Distiller versions 5 and 6" and presumably with the Adobe PDF printer
in
version 7 as well. It looks like the workaround is to print to a
PostScript
file and manually distill the PostScript file. Thanks again!

Off topic: Yes, Terje, R for Rex. I fancy I have royal blood in my
veins.
Charles, Prince of Wales, however, would only be Charles P (P for the
Latin
"princeps" or prince) until he ascends the throne at which time he
could take
whatever name he wishes to use as king. My guess is that he might opt
for
George VII rather than his own given name.

:

Well, as I said, not me!
My English is not good enough, and for sure my spare time nill (for
the time
being).
But later perhaps?

I would like Charles R to report back his result!

Regards Terje

Off-topic: Charles R? R for Rex? THE Charles, prince of England? No,
he is
not using Publisher?


"Mary Sauer" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
Hi Terje, I've never used a commercial printer. I pasted your
other reply
because it sounded so good!! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
There is a
Publisher web site, you could write a FAQ and I'm sure David would
post
it.

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
Well Mary, that is the solution he is using, but he wants to
print
directly to Adobe PDF.
Why it's not working, I don't know, but may be a missing update
or
something.
Early Pub2003 (not SP1) had this problem.

I have recently found that Acrobat do a better job of converting
to CMYK,
so I follow these procedures:

Work the complete Publisher file in RGB!
Then, before I print, I go Tools/Commercial Printing Tools/Color,
select
the Color tab and check that black is really black.
In RGB that would be (0, 0, 0).
Seems like publisher somethimes think that true black is (33, 33,
33).
The latter would produce "black" on all four plates, and any
misalignement during printing would make it look awfull.
If I find this, I simply change this to (0, 0, 0).

Then, I print directly to Adobe PDF using the PDF/X1-a profile
(which
does the conversion).
The result is composite CMYK, with far better separations than
Publisher
produces.

You need Acrobat 7.0 Professional to do this (probably 6.0 Prof
will do
the job).

About time someone with good English language write a FAQ (not
me!).

Regards
Terje


"Mary Sauer" <[email protected]> skrev i melding
This is the solution that was give on the prepress newsgroup
A few simple steps:

In Publisher:
a. Select "Generic Color PS for Commercial Printing" as your
printer
output.
b. On "File/Print/Advanced settings" select Composite CMYK.
c. Tools/Commercial Printing Tools/Color printing select
"Process colors
CMYK".

Print your pages to a output file with the ending .ps.

Open Adobe Acrobat Distiller and select "Press Quality"
settings, or
better
PDF/X-1a if you have the professional version (check with your
printer).
Open your .ps file, and it will produce your .pdf
The resulting PDF file should be separated CMYK!!!

Regards Terje


--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/
http://msauer.mvps.org/
news://msnews.microsoft.com
message
I am using Publisher 2003 SP-1 and Adobe Acrobat 7.0.5 Standard.
When I
attempt to output composite CMYK by printing to the Adobe PDF
printer,
I get
an error message saying "This document failed to print." The
message
appears
at the point at which Publisher has completed the process of
sending
data to
the printer and at the point at which Distiller would normally
begin to
distill the PostScript output. No log file or PDF is created. I
can
successfully print to a PostScript file and manually distill
the
PostScript
file without a problem. Why can't I outout composite CMYK
directly to
the
Adobe PDF printer?
 

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