Overlapping JPEGs turn to GIF

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Gary Wheeler

I've transitioned from Pub2000 to Pub2003. I know better
than to overlap a nice JPEG image onto a solid background
color or it will all be posted as a pathetic looking GIF.
However, in Pub2003, a page with nice JPEG atop a larger
solid-fill rectangle previews in Explorer 6 beautifully!
I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. But same page
previewed in Netscape 7.1 displays crummy GIF as in the
old days. Design Checker in Pub2003 no longer alerts to
such overlapped objects as it does in Pub2000, so I'm
puzzled. Can someone clarify what (if anything) is
different in Pub2003 re. this? E-mail me at: go(remove
this)[email protected]
 
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David Bartosik - MS MVP

Version 2003 takes a more complicated approach with image files and
browsers, which is why the web page file size is so big. Take a look at your
folder of images and you'll see multiple copies of each image. 2003 creates
copies in various formats and resolutions of each image and then has code in
the web page that determines the browser and thus the capabilities of the
browser and based on that will render the best graphic file for that
browsers ability. The premium will be PNG's and the new VML technology,
supported of course by the latest and greatest IE.
 
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Gary Wheeler

-----Original Message-----
Version 2003 takes a more complicated approach with image files and
browsers, which is why the web page file size is so big. Take a look at your
folder of images and you'll see multiple copies of each image. 2003 creates
copies in various formats and resolutions of each image and then has code in
the web page that determines the browser and thus the capabilities of the
browser and based on that will render the best graphic file for that
browsers ability. The premium will be PNG's and the new VML technology,
supported of course by the latest and greatest IE.

--
David Bartosik - Microsoft MVP
Visit www.davidbartosik.com
for Publisher and Web Design
Tips and How-to's.





.Thanks David! To clarify: 1)does Pub2003 always turn
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overlapping objects into GIF images like earlier versions,
or just sometimes depending on viewer's browser? 2)Is the
viewer's download time roughly twice as long due to the
large file sizes of pages created in Pub2003? If he
experiences that penalty, what a terrible price to pay for
my incremental uploads to server! 3)With Pub2003,I can no
longer find my temp folder for a webpage previewed
offline. The last part of the file path shown in the
Address Bar
(Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pubxxx\index.htm)cannot be
found within Temporary Internet Files, despite my
selection to display hidden files. Can't even find any of
those file names within parenthesis by using Search!
Thanks in advance!!! Gary
 
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David Bartosik - MS MVP

Thanks David! To clarify: 1)does Pub2003 always turn
overlapping objects into GIF images like earlier versions,
or just sometimes depending on viewer's browser?
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I haven't spent a lot of time looking at that as of yet but it should be yes
and no. Pub will write with CSS 2 which supports layering (z index) so if
the browser supports CSS 2 and VML you would have separate objects,
otherwise you'd get the larger gif.



2)Is the
viewer's download time roughly twice as long due to the
large file sizes of pages created in Pub2003? If he
experiences that penalty, what a terrible price to pay for
my incremental uploads to server!
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refer to
http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub11.htm


3)With Pub2003,I can no
longer find my temp folder for a webpage previewed
offline. The last part of the file path shown in the
Address Bar
(Content.MSO\PubWebPagePreview\pubxxx\index.htm)cannot be
found within Temporary Internet Files, despite my
selection to display hidden files. Can't even find any of
those file names within parenthesis by using Search!
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don't know why you would do that, if you want the web files than
export/publish it to your PC.

I don't know what to tell you there as I've not messed with temp files, no
reason to, only that I believe that Pub would and should remove any temp
files when it's done needing them.
 
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Guest

-----Original Message-----


I haven't spent a lot of time looking at that as of yet but it should be yes
and no. Pub will write with CSS 2 which supports layering (z index) so if
the browser supports CSS 2 and VML you would have separate objects,
otherwise you'd get the larger gif.



2)Is the

refer to
http://www.davidbartosik.com/pub11.htm


3)With Pub2003,I can no

don't know why you would do that, if you want the web files than
export/publish it to your PC.

I don't know what to tell you there as I've not messed with temp files, no
reason to, only that I believe that Pub would and should remove any temp
files when it's done needing them.

--
David Bartosik - Microsoft MVP
Visit www.davidbartosik.com
for Publisher and Web Design
Tips and How-to's.


.Thanks for your patience with a newbie, David. I read
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your website page, and understand that "The more code in a
file the larger the file size". However, I remain
uncertain if the large files created by Pub2003 due to its
use of MXL and uploading multiple images - are ALL
downloaded to each viewer's PC. If he downloads just what
his browser can best use, that's fine, but I remain unsure
if he downloads everything I uploaded to the server.
 
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