page number like "L-1", "L-2" etc... in TOC

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Air Force Jayhawk

I know I can just place "L-" in front of a page number, but I need the
table of contents to reflect page "L-1", "L-2", "L-3", etc...

Note each section is different "M-1", "K-1", "H-1", etc...

How can I do this?

Thanks in advance!

AFJ
 
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Air Force Jayhawk

Maybe. You tell me .

I work with legal (contract) documents that have sections labeled
something like "Section K". the contents of Section K must always be
in K, not H, not I, etc...

These sections are often prepared by different people and then merged
together at the very end. To add confusion, some sections are used in
multiple documents. (Sections L and M appear both in the Request for
Proposal as well as the Source Selection Plan). I need to esnure that
the page numbering does not change bewteen these documents (Page 5 in
the SSP and page 25 in the RFP is not acceptable...should be Page L-2
in both).

So, if I use the heading numbering feature as described in the MVP
page, the chapter Letter will float with it's order in the document.

I guess I can use the "start at" feature, but I will have to play with
it for a while.

AFJ
 
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Air Force Jayhawk

OK, I played with it some today...no dice.

Here is the problem. I have two documents. The first is "Section L",
the second id "Section M". For L and M to appear in the footer, they
have to have "Heading X" styles. Yet in the end they will get merged
together into another document. Which by the way also has "Heading X"
styles and of course they are different.

Among many little issues, the one big one is that when they get
merged, all will end up with the same "heading X" styles.

Stumped...
 
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Captain_Nemo

If I understand what you want, it's a three step process.

1. Modify Heading 1's (very important step--MODIFY HEADING 1's) Heading
9 to number in letter style (A,B,C...). If you want, you can lead the
A,B,C with inserted text "Section " before the grayed out A. When you
apply Heading 9's style then it will say "Section A" before your title
text. (If you try to modify Heading 9's style directly you're doing
this wrong!!!!)

2. Modify the footer to not same as previous, to include chapter number
with page, chapter number linked to Heading 9, start at 1.

3. Modify the Table of Contents options to include Heading 9 at Level
1. Insert new/replace table of contents.

I never had a document that actually needed all nine styles. If
Heading 9 is common amongst all authors, when assembled in order, they
will auto-number in order. If your authors are using different
templates, get them all on the same page ;-)

Good luck,
....best, Capt T.


Air Force Jayhawk said:
OK, I played with it some today...no dice.

Here is the problem. I have two documents. The first is "Section L",
the second id "Section M". For L and M to appear in the footer, they
have to have "Heading X" styles. Yet in the end they will get merged
together into another document. Which by the way also has "Heading X"
styles and of course they are different.

Among many little issues, the one big one is that when they get
merged, all will end up with the same "heading X" styles.

Stumped...

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John McGhie [MVP - Word]

If each section is a separate file, and you use the RD (Referenced Document)
field to call it in to the Table of Contents, which also is a separate
document, then the page number will appear in the TOC exactly as it does in
the original document.

So:

1) Divide your document into separate files, one for each section and one
for the TOC.

2) In each File, set up to Include Chapter Number with Page Number

3) In the TOC Document, add an RD Field for each of the files to be
included. Read the Help on RD Fields carefully: note that you have to
double the back-slashes in any file path names you include in them.

4) Insert a Table of Contents as described in the Help.

Word will automatically open each of the RD files and scan their content for
TOC headings. The page numbers it includes will be those copied from the
original document, which will not update depending on the position of the
file in the final print job.

To print the thing, simply select all the files in Windows File Explorer or
My Computer, right-click and choose Print. Word will open each file in turn
and print it.

Hope this helps


from said:
Maybe. You tell me .

I work with legal (contract) documents that have sections labeled
something like "Section K". the contents of Section K must always be
in K, not H, not I, etc...

These sections are often prepared by different people and then merged
together at the very end. To add confusion, some sections are used in
multiple documents. (Sections L and M appear both in the Request for
Proposal as well as the Source Selection Plan). I need to esnure that
the page numbering does not change bewteen these documents (Page 5 in
the SSP and page 25 in the RFP is not acceptable...should be Page L-2
in both).

So, if I use the heading numbering feature as described in the MVP
page, the chapter Letter will float with it's order in the document.

I guess I can use the "start at" feature, but I will have to play with
it for a while.

AFJ

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McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
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Air Force Jayhawk

Don't think you can link Heading 9 to level 1...the built in heading
styles (at least they used to) are hard-coded to the same level as the
heading.
 
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Air Force Jayhawk

Hmmm, never used the RD field. Issue is that the people doing the
file merging are trolls when it comes to computer skills. I suppose I
could build the "master" document but begining to think it is time to
find another line of work.
 
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Captain_Nemo

Wrong.
Never used the Table of Contents options either, I see.

Word 2000 and later (can't tell anymore about earlier)
Insert /
Index and Tables... /
Table of Contents /
Options

A table appears with all avaliable styles waiting for you to assign
levels. In particular, of course, you can assign Level 1 to Heading 9.

Do you sense that I find it annoying that the only person, in this forum
filled with extremely talented Word-smiths, who says that this can't be
done is the guy asking for help? Where do you think I learned it?

Air Force Jayhawk said:
Don't think you can link Heading 9 to level 1...the built in heading
styles (at least they used to) are hard-coded to the same level as the
heading.

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Email to (e-mail address removed) (yes, you can so figure it out) ;-]

Scream and shout and jump for joy! I was here before Kilroy!

Sorry to spoil your little joke. I was here but my computer broke. ---Kilroy
 
J

John McGhie [MVP - Word]

If all you need to do is build a TOC and Index and print the thing, then go
ahead and use a Master Document. Just do not quote me publicly as saying
it's OK. OK?

Seriously: Master Documents work fine in "Throw-Away" mode to do things
like long document printing and collation and index generation. In fact,
there used to be a sentence in the Help that specified that that was all
they should be used for.

They have taken it out of the help, but the rule I use now is "A Master
Document must NEVER be edited."

Build it, print it, and throw it away. You keep all the subdocuments. But
the master MUST be thrown away. All of the copies. Every time.

If you do that, you will live a long and happy life. If you do not, you
will have long weekends and late nights slaving over a hot computer :)

Cheers


from said:
Hmmm, never used the RD field. Issue is that the people doing the
file merging are trolls when it comes to computer skills. I suppose I
could build the "master" document but begining to think it is time to
find another line of work.

--

Please respond only to the newsgroup to preserve the thread.

John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 
J

John McGhie [MVP - Word]

Captain:

No, actually, he's right. Bad things happen to the numbering if you link
Heading 9 to level 1.

You are of course correct that you can assign it to any level you like IN
THE TOC, but that's not what he meant.

And I know you're getting frustrated: that happens from time to time around
here. But when I did it (and I was pretty toxic!!) people had to gently
(and some of them not so gently...) ask me to exert greater restraint. This
is a 'family' show, we try not to flame 'anyone' around here. :)

We do value your contributions. A lot. So there's a reason I am asking :)

Cheers

from said:
Wrong.
Never used the Table of Contents options either, I see.

Word 2000 and later (can't tell anymore about earlier)
Insert /
Index and Tables... /
Table of Contents /
Options

A table appears with all avaliable styles waiting for you to assign
levels. In particular, of course, you can assign Level 1 to Heading 9.

Do you sense that I find it annoying that the only person, in this forum
filled with extremely talented Word-smiths, who says that this can't be
done is the guy asking for help? Where do you think I learned it?

--

Please respond only to the newsgroup to preserve the thread.

John McGhie, Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. GMT + 10 Hrs
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]
 
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Captain_Nemo

John McGhie said:
Captain:

No, actually, he's right. Bad things happen to the numbering if you link
Heading 9 to level 1.

You are of course correct that you can assign it to any level you like IN
THE TOC, but that's not what he meant.

Hi John -

Point well taken. He's right and I'm correct. ;-)

Talking different things apparently. IN THE TOC is what I meant.

I learned this trick here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&safe=off&q="App
endices+Numbering+in+TOC%22&btnG=Search

....best, Capt N.

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Sorry to spoil your little joke. I was here but my computer broke. ---Kilroy
 
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Air Force Jayhawk

Thanks :)

AFJ

Captain:

No, actually, he's right. Bad things happen to the numbering if you link
Heading 9 to level 1.

You are of course correct that you can assign it to any level you like IN
THE TOC, but that's not what he meant.

And I know you're getting frustrated: that happens from time to time around
here. But when I did it (and I was pretty toxic!!) people had to gently
(and some of them not so gently...) ask me to exert greater restraint. This
is a 'family' show, we try not to flame 'anyone' around here. :)

We do value your contributions. A lot. So there's a reason I am asking :)

Cheers
 

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