part of last line of a page repeated on next page

[DdanK]

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Power PC

On some pages, the last line is closer to the page number than on other pages, and then part of this last line gets repeated on the first line of the next page. It seems that this mostly happens when there is a line with only few characters in the lower half of the page. In a 200 page manuscript this happens about five or six times. I usually generate a PDF before printing, so it could also be a bug in the PDF generator of Word 2008. But it is definitely a bug and has not been fixed for the last 6 months at least. I always am up to date. Have not yet checked if 12.1.7 update fixed this, but all previous updates did not.

 

[CyberTaz]

No offense, but this isn't something that has been posted here before so I
doubt that it is actually a bug in Word - pursuant to that, I'm further
certain that nothing about the 12.1.7 update addresses anything of this
nature. Also, Word doesn't send the top half of a line separately from the
bottom half - it sends the entire file to the output device. What the device
does with it is then out of Word's control. I'm sure there are suggestions
to be made but you need to clarify a few things first...

Exactly what method are you using to generate the PDF? Without involving
separate PDF creator software there are 2 to choose from: File> Save As
(which is furnished by the program) and File> Print (which is furnished by
OS X). Both, however, rely heavily on the local printer & its driver to
create the PDF, so the next question is...

Have you checked the mfr's web site for an updated printer driver? Does
their support group show any similar reports?

Does this occur in the PDF only or does it also display that way in Preview
before the PDF is made? Have you printed the document directly to the
printer rather than generating a PDF first? What is the result?

Have you tried printing to other printers? What happens there?

Additional to Office is OS X fully updated (10.5.6)? Have you retrieved the
OS X 10.5.6 (Leopard) Combo Update from Apple Downloads rather than relying
on the minimized versions supplied by Software Update? If not it might not
be a bad idea to do so. You can find it here:

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx1056comboupdate.html

There "could" be aspects of the document that are responsible, but printing
issues are most likely attributable to other factors such as indicated
above. If those point don't resolve it then a closer look at the document
will be in order.

 

[John McGhie]

I think this is another instance of the "Lazy Repagination" bug, which has
been reported with every version of Word since about 1989.

Try this: Flip from Print Layout view into Draft View, then back again.

Did that fix it? If so, then it is the Lazy Repagination bug, and that's
the fix for it. The explanation is long and complex, but basically: ALL
modern applications re-calculate only the text that is "visible". It's a
power-saving technique. Performance would be truly appalling if they
repaginated the entire document every time a character changed. But
deciding which text is visible, and which of that has changed, is extremely
complex. Sometimes, they get it wrong.

Before printing, Word repaginates the entire document. So if you "Print" to
the PDF writer, the pagination should be complete and correct. If you
"save" to PDF, it may not be. Either way, the bug has been around for about
20 years, so I guess they're not going to fix it in this lifetime

Don't confuse the terms "Line" and "Paragraph". To Word, they are very
distinct objects. If you have "Widow/Orphan" control turned on for your
paragraph style, you will get paragraphs splitting across a page break.

"Widow/Orphan" operates to ensure that when the paragraph is split, at least
two lines of text remain either side of the page break. If Word can't place
two lines of text before and after the page break, it will move the whole
paragraph forward to avoid the break.

If you have modern text with normal (short!) paragraphs, then you may be
better to turn off Widow/Orphan and set "Keep lines together" instead.
Readers hate chasing the end of the paragraph over the page and paper is not
that expensive. But if you have legal text with paragraphs that run on for
half a page, then you will have to allow them to split or the gaps will
annoy you and the readers even more!

Hope this helps

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Power PC

On some pages, the last line is closer to the page number than on other pages,
and then part of this last line gets repeated on the first line of the next
page. It seems that this mostly happens when there is a line with only few
characters in the lower half of the page. In a 200 page manuscript this
happens about five or six times. I usually generate a PDF before printing, so
it could also be a bug in the PDF generator of Word 2008. But it is definitely
a bug and has not been fixed for the last 6 months at least. I always am up to
date. Have not yet checked if 12.1.7 update fixed this, but all previous
updates did not.

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[Clive Huggan]

I think this is another instance of the "Lazy Repagination" bug, which has
been reported with every version of Word since about 1989.

Try this: Flip from Print Layout view into Draft View, then back again.

<snip>

And the quickest way to do that is to key Command-Option-n followed by
Command-Option-p.

[Caveat: I'm not using Word 2008 so don't know whether the keyboard shortcut
for Draft View has changed from earlier versions, when it was called
"Normal" view (hence the "n"). Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.]

Cheers,

Clive Huggan
Canberra, Australia
(My time zone is 5-11 hours different from the Americas and Europe, so my
follow-on responses to those regions can be delayed)
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