Paste Problem

K

kevs

I'm pasting text from a .txt file into word and it coming up looking bad,
anything I can do?

This file originates from a pdf, which I cannot see option to get into word
direct.



Kevs



OS 10.4.7
Office 2004
 
J

JE McGimpsey

kevs <[email protected]> said:
I'm pasting text from a .txt file into word and it coming up looking bad,
anything I can do?

kevs, you've been posting here long enough to know that your description
is useless in helping someone to figure out what's wrong...

What does "looking bad" mean?

A .txt file doesn't have any formatting associated with it. Have you
applied your preferred style(s) to the pasted text?
 
K

kevs

kevs, you've been posting here long enough to know that your description
is useless in helping someone to figure out what's wrong...

What does "looking bad" mean?

A .txt file doesn't have any formatting associated with it. Have you
applied your preferred style(s) to the pasted text?
JE:
What's happening is I'm seeing many words bleed together after the paste.
Spacing is off.


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Office 2004
 
C

CyberTaz

Try Command+A, Edit> Clear> Clear Formatting and then either change the font
to one of the standards (such as Times New Roman) or apply a style.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
 
K

kevs

Try Command+A, Edit> Clear> Clear Formatting and then either change the font
to one of the standards (such as Times New Roman) or apply a style.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
Sorry Bob, just realized that the .txt file it's coming from has the word
bleed problem. So my question is: how do I get a Word file straight from
the PDF? I don't see it offered. It offers Photoshop etc but not word? I
don't get it.



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E

Elliott Roper

Sorry Bob, just realized that the .txt file it's coming from has the word
bleed problem. So my question is: how do I get a Word file straight from
the PDF? I don't see it offered. It offers Photoshop etc but not word? I
don't get it.
PDF is not meant to be edited. You are lucky it is that good.
A PDF is only meant to look good on the page, there is no reason why
the characters could not have been placed there in any order at all in
the file, then placed just so to fool a human reader.

A neat trick for plagiarising PDF is to OCR the PDF. One of the
professional versions of Acrobat does just that, but any old OCR
program should be able to eat PDF for breakfast. If not save the thing
as a tiff, and give the OCR that to eat.
 
K

kevs

PDF is not meant to be edited. You are lucky it is that good.
A PDF is only meant to look good on the page, there is no reason why
the characters could not have been placed there in any order at all in
the file, then placed just so to fool a human reader.

A neat trick for plagiarising PDF is to OCR the PDF. One of the
professional versions of Acrobat does just that, but any old OCR
program should be able to eat PDF for breakfast. If not save the thing
as a tiff, and give the OCR that to eat.
What is OCR?
So is there verdict I can't get it properly in Word doc?


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Office 2004
 
P

Phillip Jones

OCR stands for Optical Character Recognition.

You scan document in a scanner and special software (usually doesn't
work that well PC or Mac) tries to read it and convert to an editable
document. Once converted can be opened by Word, or excel depending upon
what the document is.
What is OCR?
So is there verdict I can't get it properly in Word doc?


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Office 2004

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Elliott Roper

Phillip Jones said:
OCR stands for Optical Character Recognition.

You scan document in a scanner and special software (usually doesn't
work that well PC or Mac) tries to read it and convert to an editable
document. Once converted can be opened by Word, or excel depending upon
what the document is.
Well, it beats the B'Jasus out of typing it all back in again!
I've got an ancient copy of ReadIris that came on a magazine CD.
It works a treat when all else fails. PDFs, as long as they are not
just containers for scruffy bitmap images of text as some of them are,
are a great starting point for OCR. You don't need to print and scan
the little snivellers. Any halfway decent OCR program will work from
any kind of image.
 
P

Phillip Jones

Elliott said:
Well, it beats the B'Jasus out of typing it all back in again!
I've got an ancient copy of ReadIris that came on a magazine CD.
It works a treat when all else fails. PDFs, as long as they are not
just containers for scruffy bitmap images of text as some of them are,
are a great starting point for OCR. You don't need to print and scan
the little snivellers. Any halfway decent OCR program will work from
any kind of image.

While OCR does work when through there is a lot of editing and spell
checking to be done. OCR is a work in progress and will be years until
almost perfect.

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C

Clive Huggan

While OCR does work when through there is a lot of editing and spell
checking to be done. OCR is a work in progress and will be years until
almost perfect.

That's not my experience with OmniPage Pro X, Phillip -- whether recognizing
directly from a scan or via PDF -- unless the original is say, half the
quality of a fax sent on standard setting. In fact I'm amazed at how often
it interprets marginal-quality text correctly. That's why I quite frequently
use OCR to suck text off scanned PDFs, as Elliott describes.

Cheers,

Clive
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K

kevs

That's not my experience with OmniPage Pro X, Phillip -- whether recognizing
directly from a scan or via PDF -- unless the original is say, half the
quality of a fax sent on standard setting. In fact I'm amazed at how often
it interprets marginal-quality text correctly. That's why I quite frequently
use OCR to suck text off scanned PDFs, as Elliott describes.

Cheers,

Clive
======
So an OCR can work right off a PDF? (no scanning needed) Any
recommendations?



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C

Clive Huggan

So an OCR can work right off a PDF? (no scanning needed) Any
recommendations?



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As I said, Kevs, OmniPage Pro X reads PDFs without having to scan. I don't
have recent experience of any other OCR applications. The Mac version
hasn't been updated for some years, whereas the PC version is being
continually improved, but it does what I want, to the fairly high standard I
need.

Clive Huggan
============
 
K

kevs

As I said, Kevs, OmniPage Pro X reads PDFs without having to scan. I don't
have recent experience of any other OCR applications. The Mac version
hasn't been updated for some years, whereas the PC version is being
continually improved, but it does what I want, to the fairly high standard I
need.

Clive Huggan
============
Thanks Clive, just version tracked it, and yes, way out of date and silly
overpriced. Any other ideas?


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