pdf doesnt have Times New roman CE either...

[gweno]

I'm still trying to send documents created with Czech diacritics to my
advisor. And they're still not repeating the Czech diacritics.

....I thought using create pdf on the web would solve my problems but i
was shocked to discover that the Czech diacritics don't come out there
either. I don't know what to do. On the user board there it advises
you to embed the fonts, but a little research shows that embedding
fonts isn't supported for the Mac.

can anyone please help??? I'm at my wit's end.

 

[Paul Berkowitz]

I'm still trying to send documents created with Czech diacritics to my
advisor. And they're still not repeating the Czech diacritics.

...I thought using create pdf on the web would solve my problems but i

was shocked to discover that the Czech diacritics don't come out there
either. I don't know what to do. On the user board there it advises
you to embed the fonts, but a little research shows that embedding
fonts isn't supported for the Mac.

can anyone please help??? I'm at my wit's end.

Since it's that important, you'd better upgrade to Office 2004 and use (the
Unicode implementation with) Times New Roman there.

--
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MVP MacOffice
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PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using -
**2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions
otherwise.

 

[Elliott Roper]

I'm still trying to send documents created with Czech diacritics to my
advisor. And they're still not repeating the Czech diacritics.

...I thought using create pdf on the web would solve my problems but i
was shocked to discover that the Czech diacritics don't come out there
either. I don't know what to do. On the user board there it advises
you to embed the fonts, but a little research shows that embedding
fonts isn't supported for the Mac.

can anyone please help??? I'm at my wit's end.

Hmm. How are you printing to PDF? Forget that webby nonsense.
Using Word v.X and OS X 10.3.8, I can insert characters with diacritics
such as a 'small letter c with a caron' in Times CE after setting my
keyboard to Czech and playing silly games with the keyboard viewer.

If I then print to PDF (you seem to have missed this trick in the
bottom of the normal OS X print dialog) the diacriticals appear on
screen, and then if I inspect the pdf document with a full version of
Acrobat, it tells me TimesCE-Roman(Embedded Subset) is present.

Which rather gives the lie to "embedding fonts isn't supported for the
Mac." It is supported when you print to PDF from the system print
dialog. You don't get a chance to turn it off.

Ask again if your version of Word and version of OS X does not match
mine. Apple fixed up print to PDF and the preview pdf viewer program in
OS X 10.3 Microsoft added Unicode in Word 2004, which should have made
you job far easier, and removed the need to use Times CE at all.

I tried the same test with TextEdit, since it is Unicode aware and I
don't yet have Word 2004, and it created a pdf with the font embedded
too - in this case the Unicode version of Helvetica - with lovely
diacritics.

Ask someone else if they can see your pdf OK on a different computer.
Oh wait. I see you have done that already.

You *are* on OS X are you?

 

[gweno]

Hmm. How are you printing to PDF? Forget that webby nonsense.
Using Word v.X and OS X 10.3.8, I can insert characters with diacritics
such as a 'small letter c with a caron' in Times CE after setting my
keyboard to Czech and playing silly games with the keyboard viewer.

If I then print to PDF (you seem to have missed this trick in the
bottom of the normal OS X print dialog) the diacriticals appear on
screen, and then if I inspect the pdf document with a full version of
Acrobat, it tells me TimesCE-Roman(Embedded Subset) is present.

Which rather gives the lie to "embedding fonts isn't supported for the
Mac." It is supported when you print to PDF from the system print
dialog. You don't get a chance to turn it off.

Ask again if your version of Word and version of OS X does not match
mine. Apple fixed up print to PDF and the preview pdf viewer program in
OS X 10.3 Microsoft added Unicode in Word 2004, which should have made
you job far easier, and removed the need to use Times CE at all.

I tried the same test with TextEdit, since it is Unicode aware and I
don't yet have Word 2004, and it created a pdf with the font embedded
too - in this case the Unicode version of Helvetica - with lovely
diacritics.

Ask someone else if they can see your pdf OK on a different computer.
Oh wait. I see you have done that already.

You *are* on OS X are you?

Yes, I'm on 10.3.8

I haven't upgraded to word 2004 yet so I guess I'd better do that but
from your post it looks as though you're also using word 10?
I AM missing the "print to pdf" thing I guess.

How did you set your keyboard to Czech?

When I get word 2004, will I have to go through my documents and change
the fonts again (please say no) or will it maintain the diacritics i
have?

 

[Elliott Roper]

Yes, I'm on 10.3.8

I haven't upgraded to word 2004 yet so I guess I'd better do that but
from your post it looks as though you're also using word 10? yes v.X
I AM missing the "print to pdf" thing I guess.

Can't be. On the bottom row of the print dialog box. Also available in
output options on the same panel. (click on the copies and pages
selector for more choices - output options will be one of them. There
you will get a choice of postscript or PDF.

How did you set your keyboard to Czech?

System preferences -> International -> Input menu ->Czech
then use the keyboard viewer to see which key does what. The
diacriticals are mostly where the numbers should be.

When I get word 2004, will I have to go through my documents and change
the fonts again (please say no) or will it maintain the diacritics i
have?

Dunno. I have not yet got 2004. Good Luck!
For your work, you really do need 2004 and its Unicode support.
My workarounds were just to tide you over until you got 2004.

With 2004, all your advisors and translators with modern PC versions of
office will be able to read your Czech directly in Word with none of
this PDF printing nonsense.

 

[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

I'm still trying to send documents created with Czech diacritics to my
advisor. And they're still not repeating the Czech diacritics.

...I thought using create pdf on the web would solve my problems but i
was shocked to discover that the Czech diacritics don't come out there
either. I don't know what to do. On the user board there it advises
you to embed the fonts, but a little research shows that embedding
fonts isn't supported for the Mac.

can anyone please help??? I'm at my wit's end.

A little bit of mis-information there Adobe allows for font embedding
in Acrobat.
However; they have agreements an such them must go by and if its a
"true" microsoft font they don't allow anyone to embed fonts. of course
Aodobe does for all it type Library. and there are Font Foundries that
allow embeding but many do not.

But first in Distiller you must go into preferences related to setting
fonts and choose embed all fonts. What will happen is all fonts that can
legally be embedded will show up on a list. Those that can't be will
show up on another list.

If the font you want to use shows up on this can not embed list then you
can't use it. It will show up with the right font on your system. But
another person's that does have it might see anything.

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