Photos in Word, problem

[Steve K]

Hi,

I'm a designer and only use Word to copy text that clients send me. That
is all I have ever used it for.

At times we ask people to send us their hi-res photos to use as an email
attachment. Some people just attch the photo to the email and I can use
the photo fine, but other people place that photo into Word first, then
attach the Word file.

In all my years of experience, I can't figure out to "extract" that
photo from Word so I can open it in Photoshop and do what needs to be
done to it.

I'm on MacOSX.3.3

Thanks for your help
Steve

 

[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

Hi,

I'm a designer and only use Word to copy text that clients send me. That
is all I have ever used it for.

At times we ask people to send us their hi-res photos to use as an email
attachment. Some people just attch the photo to the email and I can use
the photo fine, but other people place that photo into Word first, then
attach the Word file.

In all my years of experience, I can't figure out to "extract" that
photo from Word so I can open it in Photoshop and do what needs to be
done to it.

I'm on MacOSX.3.3

Thanks for your help
Steve

Have you tried opening both at the same time clicking on the photo object do a copy,
then switch to Photoshop and do a paste?

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[Steve K]

Have you tried opening both at the same time clicking on the photo object do
a copy,
then switch to Photoshop and do a paste?

Of course not... that would be the easy thing to do! Man do I feel
stupid. That works. Thanks!

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Hi Steve,

Here's *a* way to extract the picture. It may not be the best in terms of
maintaining resolution, though. Hopefully someone will have a better
suggestion.

I suspect that your clients are just dragging the picture into Word where it
will appear as "In line with text" by default. That means that it's treated
just like a piece of text as opposed to being a "floating" object, which
means you can't reposition or do much else with it.

Select the picture and go to Format menu> Picture. Click on the layout tab
and change the setting from "In line with text" to anything else; "square"
will do. That makes it a floating object in the drawing layer of the
document. You can now drag the picture to your desktop where it will become
a PICT file.

Hope this helps.

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[John McGhie]

Hi Steve:

Word 2004 has a new feature that the PC doesn't have (Nyeah nyeah Nyah!!)
that is just bliss...

You right-click the picture! One of the menu options is Save as Picture...

The choices are GIF, PACT, JPEG, PNG and BMP. This works across the whole
Office 2004 suite

At laaaast... We have the ability to get a picture out of Word cleanly in
all circumstances In the past this has been a huge problem.

Steve, you need to know this: the rest of us will go back to sleep

The restriction on Copy/Paste is this: The picture goes onto the clipboard
at the size it is in the document. However, the file itself is at the
native resolution. If the size is not an even multiple of the native
resolution, the result pixelates badly.

You could deal with the problem by resetting the picture size to 100 per
cent in the Word document before you copied, but if you did, you ruined your
Word document layout

In Word, the user has the ability to resize the printed image by dragging a
corner of it. If they do, this does not change the resolution of the file
in the document. With amateurs, the file embedded in the document is often
at the native resolution of the capturing device. Word has a very good
antialiasing algorithm that produces a very good result if Word prints the
picture. But if it hands it off to another application that does not know
that it needs to look at the "other" raster image on the clipboard, you can
end up pasting the fuzzy picture instead of the native high-res one. On the
PC, I know of only one app that will get a photo out of Word cleanly, and
that's the little freeware add-on they shipped with Office 97 - Office 2002
called Microsoft Photo Editor. Disaster befell us in Office 2003: not only
does it not include Photo Editor, O2003 uninstalls it!

So now, we get Save as Picture on the right click, the PC users haven't got
an equivalent, so may all their pictures be fuzzy

Hope this helps

Of course not... that would be the easy thing to do! Man do I feel
stupid. That works. Thanks!

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[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

To get around the problem you suggest couldn't he save the doc first the change Pic
to 100% the do copy and paste? It adds a couple of steps but ... .

I don't know if "most" people do as you suggest. They probably do.

Bust the only way I have ever added a Picture or logo is to Insert Picture ... From
File. I've never dragged and drop a picture. Never though to do it and never really
knew you could.

Hi Steve:

Word 2004 has a new feature that the PC doesn't have (Nyeah nyeah Nyah!!)
that is just bliss...

You right-click the picture! One of the menu options is Save as Picture...

The choices are GIF, PACT, JPEG, PNG and BMP. This works across the whole
Office 2004 suite

At laaaast... We have the ability to get a picture out of Word cleanly in
all circumstances In the past this has been a huge problem.

Steve, you need to know this: the rest of us will go back to sleep

The restriction on Copy/Paste is this: The picture goes onto the clipboard
at the size it is in the document. However, the file itself is at the
native resolution. If the size is not an even multiple of the native
resolution, the result pixelates badly.

You could deal with the problem by resetting the picture size to 100 per
cent in the Word document before you copied, but if you did, you ruined your
Word document layout

In Word, the user has the ability to resize the printed image by dragging a
corner of it. If they do, this does not change the resolution of the file
in the document. With amateurs, the file embedded in the document is often
at the native resolution of the capturing device. Word has a very good
antialiasing algorithm that produces a very good result if Word prints the
picture. But if it hands it off to another application that does not know
that it needs to look at the "other" raster image on the clipboard, you can
end up pasting the fuzzy picture instead of the native high-res one. On the
PC, I know of only one app that will get a photo out of Word cleanly, and
that's the little freeware add-on they shipped with Office 97 - Office 2002
called Microsoft Photo Editor. Disaster befell us in Office 2003: not only
does it not include Photo Editor, O2003 uninstalls it!

So now, we get Save as Picture on the right click, the PC users haven't got
an equivalent, so may all their pictures be fuzzy

Hope this helps

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[John McGhie]

Hi Phillip:

Now you know why I told you to go back to sleep before you got down that
far...

Picture dragging and dropping achieves exactly the same result as handling
pictures any other way in Word. Given that it is so easy and flexible, yes,
most people, including professionals, do it that way.

However, dragging and dropping enables the user to do things that would not
happen if they used Insert>Picture. That's why we advise newer professional
users not to do it. It's fine if you are careful, but it's like any other
very powerful tool: if you do not know what you are doing it enables you to
make a larger mistake faster...

You need to know how and where Word stores the original file, and how
drag-resizing operates. You also need to understand layering and wrapping,
how they operate in Word. If you do: the tool is there to be used. If you
do not, you can make problems for yourself using it.

Cheers

To get around the problem you suggest couldn't he save the doc first the
change Pic
to 100% the do copy and paste? It adds a couple of steps but ... .

I don't know if "most" people do as you suggest. They probably do.

Bust the only way I have ever added a Picture or logo is to Insert Picture ...
From
File. I've never dragged and drop a picture. Never though to do it and never
really
knew you could.

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Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Consultant Technical Writer
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