picture with text underneath it

[Richard]

Do you know in a newspaper, they have a picture and
underneath the picture is a few sentences in small type
describing the picture. I want to do the same thing in MS
Word, do you know how to do that? Do you have a file with
an example?

I then want to take the picture with small text and put is
into a letter and have the letter text tightly surround
the picture (I know how to do that part)?

Please respond to my email address, (e-mail address removed)

 

[Robert M. Franz]

Hi Richard

Do you know in a newspaper, they have a picture and
underneath the picture is a few sentences in small type
describing the picture. I want to do the same thing in MS
Word, do you know how to do that? Do you have a file with
an example?

I then want to take the picture with small text and put is
into a letter and have the letter text tightly surround
the picture (I know how to do that part)?

You insert the picture, make sure it is floating, not "inline" (Format |
Picture | Layout) and add a caption (Insert | Caption). You can now
chose the font size of the caption by chaning it in the style with the
same name. You can also change the horizontal gap between the text and
the picture in the Layout tab. Exact menues differ from version of Word,
and you didn't mention which one you're using.

Please respond to my email address, (e-mail address removed)

Sorry, this is Usenet ...

Greetinx
..bob

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Instead of floating the picture and caption separately, I would leave them
both inline and insert both in a frame, then wrap text around the frame.
This allows the caption to be "seen" for a Table of Figures,
cross-references, etc.

 

[Stephanie Krieger]

You can make it a bit simpler than that... put the whole
thing in a table instead of a frame and don't use text
wrapping. In complex docs, frames have a tendency to
cause some unstable behavior and inline objects are just
easier to manage in a table. Keep the objects inline with
text as Suzanne recommended, but put them in table cells
instead of a frame and your document will be easier to
manage. Feel free to email the document and I'll gladly
send you back an example.

Stephanie Krieger
author of Microsoft Office Document Designer
email: (e-mail address removed)
blog: arouet.net

 

[Robert M. Franz]

Hi Stephanie

You can make it a bit simpler than that... put the whole
thing in a table instead of a frame and don't use text
wrapping.

Assuming we're dealing with a real long doc, I can see the point of
Suzanne's answer. I would also recommend to use inline objects instead
of floating ones if ever possible. However, since the OP asked
specifically for newspaper style text/picture flow, I don't think an
inline table will suit him best.

In complex docs, frames have a tendency to
cause some unstable behavior

I've never seen a frame cause trouble if setup right ...

and inline objects are just easier to manage in a table.

[..]

.... nor do I think this is correct: Since you can make a frame part of a
style, there's not much easier to manage than this. Tables, OTOH ...
yuck ;-)

2cents
..bob

 

[Stephanie Krieger]

Hi, Robert,

Actually an inline table will work best and keep the
document behaving far better than the alternative.

I understand why you would say that -- surely columns
offer the benefit of text flow between -- however, didn't
seem as though his reference to newspaper setup meant
text flow across newspaper columns, Even so, the
instability risk is not worth placing frames within
columns in a long document. Much less work involved
ultimately to use a table -- even if text flow changes.

Best,
Stephanie

-----Original Message-----
Hi Stephanie

You can make it a bit simpler than that... put the whole
thing in a table instead of a frame and don't use text
wrapping.

Assuming we're dealing with a real long doc, I can see the point of
Suzanne's answer. I would also recommend to use inline objects instead
of floating ones if ever possible. However, since the OP asked
specifically for newspaper style text/picture flow, I don't think an
inline table will suit him best.

In complex docs, frames have a tendency to
cause some unstable behavior

I've never seen a frame cause trouble if setup right ...

and inline objects are just easier to manage in a

table.
[..]

.... nor do I think this is correct: Since you can make a frame part of a
style, there's not much easier to manage than this. Tables, OTOH ...
yuck ;-)

2cents
..bob
--
/"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | MS
\ / | MVP
X Against HTML | for
/ \ in e-mail & news | Word
.

 

[Stephanie Krieger]

Robert,

Afraid I hadn't read your whole post initially. I suspect
we just have a difference of opinion -- but I think you
deserve responses on a couple of points:

What I indicated was absolutely accurate -- happy to send
you samples if you'd like to see some. I can tell you
that frames will frequently cause trouble in long,
complex documents... though the version of Word does also
make a difference in the level of stability issue. Whats
more -- for someone without much experience creating
complex docs, the user is much more likely to incorrectly
set up a frame than a table.

I'm guessing we might just have different ideas of what
is a complex document and different experience.

I'm very surprised at your reaction to tables -- if you
don't think they're a good and simple solution here,
perhaps you've not used them in this way? Happy to send
you an example if you like -- just email me. I don't get
the chance to check posts very often.

Best,
Stephanie Krieger
email: (e-mail address removed)

-----Original Message-----
Hi Stephanie

You can make it a bit simpler than that... put the whole
thing in a table instead of a frame and don't use text
wrapping.

Assuming we're dealing with a real long doc, I can see the point of
Suzanne's answer. I would also recommend to use inline objects instead
of floating ones if ever possible. However, since the OP asked
specifically for newspaper style text/picture flow, I don't think an
inline table will suit him best.

In complex docs, frames have a tendency to
cause some unstable behavior

I've never seen a frame cause trouble if setup right ...

and inline objects are just easier to manage in a

table.
[..]

.... nor do I think this is correct: Since you can make a frame part of a
style, there's not much easier to manage than this. Tables, OTOH ...
yuck ;-)

2cents
..bob
--
/"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | MS
\ / | MVP
X Against HTML | for
/ \ in e-mail & news | Word
.

 

[Robert M. Franz]

Hi Stephanie

Stephanie Krieger wrote:
[..]

What I indicated was absolutely accurate -- happy to send
you samples if you'd like to see some. I can tell you
that frames will frequently cause trouble in long,
complex documents...

It's no use if we doubt each others' experience; I've never seen frames
go havoc in long documents, nor short tables. Long tables, OTOH ... ;-)
But YMMV, of course.

though the version of Word does also
make a difference in the level of stability issue.
Indeed!


Whats more -- for someone without much experience creating
complex docs, the user is much more likely to incorrectly
set up a frame than a table.

Hard to decide; someone w/o much experience should not setup long
documents IMHO. ;-)

I'm guessing we might just have different ideas of what
is a complex document and different experience.

Possibly. 1000 page document as an academic publication, with lots of
tables and even more inline OLE objects is the one I have to suffer
with.

I'm very surprised at your reaction to tables -- if you
don't think they're a good and simple solution here,
perhaps you've not used them in this way? [..]

In the OP's context, I expect he has a text with (at least) 2 columns
and wants a "floating object" of some sort, together with a caption,
surrounded by text.

I don't think an inline object will do for that. I'm sure I wouldn't
want to work with floating objects and surrounding text (in a longer
document, at least), but as long as this are the preconditions ...

Trying to add a caption to a floating table doesn't seem very promising,
either.

So I think we just agree to disagree -- nothing wrong with that.

Greetinx
..bob