pictures don't print HELP!

[tcmcvey]

I'm using Word that came with Office X, on a G5 running 10.3.6.

I need to create a 11x17 spread, multi-page document. I have one image
that I want to put on the cover spread and a different image that I
want to put on the other pages. They are sized to 10 x 16 to fit in
the page with a .5" margin all the way around. The are grayscale and
only 406KB in size. I insert them in the document using the
Insert>Picture>from File command. I've tried inserting with and
without the link to file box checked. The file appears fine in the
word doc on screen in page layout view, but when I try to print I get
a blank page. I've been to the format picture menu and tried any
number of varieties of text wraps. Nothing seems to work.

Also, I'm putting text boxes on top of the background image. The text
boxes print fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I usually use Illustrator, In
Design and Photoshop, but my client insists that this be created in
Word. I'm at my wits end.

 

[Oz Springs]

What format is the picture in? .jpg? .eps? If it is .eps are you printing to
a non-postscript printer?

Have you also checked Print Preview in Word to see if the picture shows
there? The Print Preview command is under the File Menu.

Kind regards



Oz

 

[John McGhie]

Go to Word>Preferences>Print>Include With Document and ensure "Drawing
Objects" is checked.

I'm using Word that came with Office X, on a G5 running 10.3.6.

I need to create a 11x17 spread, multi-page document. I have one image
that I want to put on the cover spread and a different image that I
want to put on the other pages. They are sized to 10 x 16 to fit in
the page with a .5" margin all the way around. The are grayscale and
only 406KB in size. I insert them in the document using the
Insert>Picture>from File command. I've tried inserting with and
without the link to file box checked. The file appears fine in the
word doc on screen in page layout view, but when I try to print I get
a blank page. I've been to the format picture menu and tried any
number of varieties of text wraps. Nothing seems to work.

Also, I'm putting text boxes on top of the background image. The text
boxes print fine.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I usually use Illustrator, In
Design and Photoshop, but my client insists that this be created in
Word. I'm at my wits end.

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[tcmcvey]

The image is a grayscale tif, but I've also tried jpgs, eps, bmp, you
name it, I've tried it. I'm printing to an HP Deskjet 1220C with
Postscript 3. Yes, I have tried the print preview at various stages of
trying to print this thing and the image doesn't show up. Is it
possibly the 11x17 size that's causing the problem. When I create ltr
size doc and insert a similar image it prints fine.

And I have checked the drawing objects in the preferences.

Any more suggestions? I'm willing to try anything.

Also, is there any way to lock down the image once it's in there, so
it can't be moved or altered. I have to hand the document over to
someone else who will be using it to edit the text on a regular basis.

Many thanks
TC

 

[Elliott Roper]

The image is a grayscale tif, but I've also tried jpgs, eps, bmp, you
name it, I've tried it. I'm printing to an HP Deskjet 1220C with
Postscript 3. Yes, I have tried the print preview at various stages of
trying to print this thing and the image doesn't show up. Is it
possibly the 11x17 size that's causing the problem. When I create ltr
size doc and insert a similar image it prints fine.

FWIW I had a similar funny the other day. I was trying to get a 600 dpi
greyscale tiff image into Word X. It refused to print -just a blank
rectangle where it should have been. Knocked it back to 300 dpi in
GraphicConverter and it was fine. Maybe Word goes all shy when there
are too many pixels in the picture. It sure has plently of other
charming idiosyncrasies when it comes to images.

And I have checked the drawing objects in the preferences.

Any more suggestions? I'm willing to try anything.

Also, is there any way to lock down the image once it's in there, so
it can't be moved or altered. I have to hand the document over to
someone else who will be using it to edit the text on a regular basis.

Word is pretty arrogant about that. It wants to tie the picture to a
paragraph. When you think about its twisted bizarre design goals, you
have to admit it is consistent.

If you want page layout, use a page layout program. InDesign is pretty
good. It is a pity your customer does not see it that way.

My working method for those situations is to do the best I can in Word,
and deliver a PDF as well. Assign one person to the role of getting the
layout right. If layout and typography is really important, finish the
content perfectly in Word, then have somebody with a good eye and a
copy of InDesign finish the job properly. Word just cannot hack
typography better than club newsletters and ransom notes.

On the other hand, with care, and by relaxing the typographical
niceties, it is possible to manage large and complex documents between
many contributors. Having one person and one machine responsible for
not letting it crumble is still a good idea.

 

[Oz Springs]

One other thing I have noticed with graphics in Word is that pictures must
be within a document¹s margins. In Word 98 you could put a graphic right to
the edge of the paper (of course some cropping will occur when printing).
But in subsequent versions of Word for Mac there are problems, and in all
the versions of PC Word I have tried you could never put a picture
stretching beyond the margins otherwise the document becomes corrupt and
dies.

I don¹t know whether this margin thing will cause printing problems - I
think I had enough trouble trying to open and/or recover the documents to
even think about printing them.

One thing to remember about Word is that it is really just a word processor
with pretensions for doing page layout things. It does not handle graphics
well; it ³pretends² to use Apple¹s inbuilt ³Colors² dialog box - try
choosing a colour either RGB or CMYK and see how badly it matches once you
put it into Word. Maybe I am too harsh (and possibly inaccurate) by
suggesting that Word really has only about 80 colours and tries to
approximate the 1000s if not millions available on a Mac.

As a word processor Word is brilliant, its macro system is brilliant (I wish
I could know it better), but for page layout, graphics, and pictures - well
there is another description altogether...

I just wish that we could persuade so many businesses who want to do all
their posters, brochures, newsletters and so forth in-house that Word is not
really the appropriate application for graphics-rich and varying-columned
work. Then again, lately I have been making some money converting beautiful
designs created in Quark into Word and PowerPoint as approximately as Word
will let me. PowerPoint isn¹t so bad for graphics, but is hopeless for
columns, etc. All is compromise, the design is always compromised.

My 2 pence

Oz

 

[tcmcvey]

Well thank you all for your kind suggestions and effort. I am a
graphic designer and use Quark, InDesign, Illustrator, etc. So you can
probably imagine how frustrating it has been for me to try to design
this simple document in Word and the ONLY reason I would be trying
this is because the client wants it that way. But I have given up.
I've never seen anything so convoluted. What a colossal waste of time.
The "Help" really makes it sound like you can design in this program,
but like you said, it's really a word processing program. So I'm going
to convince them to get a page layout program and chalk the last
couple of days up to experience.

Thanks again,
TC

 

[John McGhie]

Hi TC:

I wouldn't give up yet...

When you said that image was "greyscale", I hope you did not mean "CMYK
greyscale"??

Microsoft Office can handle only RGB, and only up to 24-bit.

I just sacked three graphics companies who wouldn't do their stuff in
Word/PowerPoint. I can't afford to equip 2,500 seats of corporate offices
with Quark, InDesign and Illustrator

Why don't you flip me the document and the image file to this email address,
and I will get it working for you

Put the password TC9b34d6d4.0412051831.64170dc in the Subject line so it
makes it through my firewall.

Cheers

Well thank you all for your kind suggestions and effort. I am a
graphic designer and use Quark, InDesign, Illustrator, etc. So you can
probably imagine how frustrating it has been for me to try to design
this simple document in Word and the ONLY reason I would be trying
this is because the client wants it that way. But I have given up.
I've never seen anything so convoluted. What a colossal waste of time.
The "Help" really makes it sound like you can design in this program,
but like you said, it's really a word processing program. So I'm going
to convince them to get a page layout program and chalk the last
couple of days up to experience.

Thanks again,
TC

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me unless I ask you to.

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Consultant Technical Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 4 1209 1410

 

[scienceteacher]

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