Please Fix Outlook 2007 Beta..Soon.

[kandodude]

I've set the Spam Filter to block mail from various countries and various
languages but I keep getting SPAM from these very countries and in foreign
languages. What gives?

Also, I went to "office Update" to update the Spam filters in Outlook 2007
as directed by "Help" in Outlook 2007 Beta, but there is no reference to
Outlook 2007 Beta Spam filter updates there or on the Office 2007 Beta site.

Additionally, when I manually set restrictions under "Rules and Alerts" on
certain mail with certain words in the subject line to be delivered to my
inbox, they are intercepted and placed in my Junk Mail box.

Also, "Auto Reply" does not work.

Additionally: The mouse cursor disappears when Outlook 2007 loads.
Outlook 2007 crashes when you click "reply" in "Inbox".
Outlook 2007 takes minutes to load.
All mouse activity is unavailable while Outlook 2007 loads.
When you click a link in an email in Outlook 2007 it takes forever for the
browser to load and open the web page.
When you send one email, Outlook 2007 says it is sending five?


Since I have seen these and a myriad of other problems on Outlook 2007 Beta
on many Forums, I have not seen a consolidated reply or fix from Microsoft.
Can we expect one? Should we, in a Beta program?
--
Dave

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[William Lefkovics [MVP]]

I'm sure something in there might actually be good feedback, but without
more information, I don't see how. You don't even indicate the operating
system you are using. I can't reproduce most of that list on any of my
Outlook 2007 installations.

Certainly there are lots of annoying issues, even the known ones:
http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/products/FX101517941033.aspx#16
That's why there is a beta process. I'd prefer that they finish it
comprehensively rather than "soon".

Of course. It might be called "beta 2 technical refresh" or "release
candidate 1".

 

[Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]]

As William suggests, you should read the known issues list to understand better what you can expect from this version.

Other comments/questions inline.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers

I've set the Spam Filter to block mail from various countries and various
languages but I keep getting SPAM from these very countries and in foreign
languages. What gives?

If you want to provide feedback on this issue, get the Send a Smile tool from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=A2E1F4E2-BC0F-4403-B09F-7A677D55F274. This tool will transmit your comments and a screenshot back to Microsoft. As Jensen Harris explains at http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2006/06/23/644160.aspx, all SaS comments do get read and routed to the right people at Microsoft.

Also, I went to "office Update" to update the Spam filters in Outlook 2007
as directed by "Help" in Outlook 2007 Beta, but there is no reference to
Outlook 2007 Beta Spam filter updates there or on the Office 2007 Beta site.

THere are no spam filter updates and probably won't be any separate spam filter downloads until after the final version is released.

Additionally, when I manually set restrictions under "Rules and Alerts" on
certain mail with certain words in the subject line to be delivered to my
inbox, they are intercepted and placed in my Junk Mail box.

The junk filter performs its processing first, before any rules are applied. (Outlook 2003 SP2 works the same way.)

Also, "Auto Reply" does not work.

Details?

Additionally: The mouse cursor disappears when Outlook 2007 loads.
Outlook 2007 crashes when you click "reply" in "Inbox".

Remove any addins that are not part of Office 2007 from Tools | Trust Center | Addins. The PDFMaker addin from Adobe is known to be a particular problem. An updated version of Acrobat may have a newer version.

 

[Patrick Schmid]

Remove any addins that are not part of Office 2007 from Tools | Trust Center | Addins. The PDFMaker addin from Adobe is known to be a particular problem. An updated version of Acrobat may have a newer version.

The update Adobe is providing currently for Adobe Acrobat 7 simply
disables the PDFMaker add-in when Outlook 2007 is detected.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Sue Mosher [MVP-Outlook]]

That's a fine solution and will also take care of the long-standing incompatibility with Outlook 2002 SP3!

--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Author of Configuring Microsoft Outlook 2003

and Microsoft Outlook Programming - Jumpstart for
Administrators, Power Users, and Developers

 

[kandodude]

I'm sure that compared to you all, we "users" of Beta programs are seen as
just so many slugs that come to these forums unprepared and having done
little or no research on our problems. Thus we get comments like this:

"I'm sure something in there might actually be good feedback, but without
more information, I don't see how. You don't even indicate the operating
system you are using. I can't reproduce most of that list on any of my
Outlook 2007 installations."



or this:

Certainly there are lots of annoying issues, even the known ones:
http://officebeta.iponet.net/en-us/products/FX101517941033.aspx#16
That's why there is a beta process. I'd prefer that they finish it
comprehensively rather than "soon".

or this:

As William suggests, you should read the known issues list to understand
better what you can expect from this version.

Now, other than being critical of my input or insulting my intelligence, did
I get any help? Yes I did on two Items:

"> Additionally, when I manually set restrictions under "Rules and Alerts" on

certain mail with certain words in the subject line to be delivered to my
inbox, they are intercepted and placed in my Junk Mail box.

"The junk filter performs its processing first, before any rules are
applied. (Outlook 2003 SP2 works the same way.)"

I did not know this, however the reason I set up the "rules" file was
because the Junk Filter was intercepting mail that I had identifed as "Not
Junk Mail"

and:

Remove any addins that are not part of Office 2007 from Tools | Trust Center | Addins. The PDFMaker addin from Adobe is known to be a particular problem. An updated version of Acrobat may have a newer version.

The update Adobe is providing currently for Adobe Acrobat 7 simply
disables the PDFMaker add-in when Outlook 2007 is detected.

Patrick Schmid (Thank you)

Here's what I did to fix my problems with Outlook 2007 Beta only because the
Beta could not interact with known programs that were currently used by the
IT community before the Beta and should have been accommodated in the Beta
release.

Outlook Hangs up/slow/unresponsive: I disabled the Adobe add-ins and all
add-ins I felt were unnecessary, disabled "Searchindexer", deleted all
unnecessary .pst files, archived all my folders (except for past 60
days).....Outlook 2007 Beta now works fine, fairly swiftly, my mouse cursor
is visible and I suffer 99% less "hangs".

The Junk Mail filter questions still exist: I've set the Junk/Spam Filter to
block mail from various countries and various
languages but I keep getting SPAM from these very countries and in foreign
languages. What gives?

As to this answer: > I've set the Spam Filter to block mail from various
countries and various

languages but I keep getting SPAM from these very countries and in foreign
languages. What gives?

"If you want to provide feedback on this issue, get the Send a Smile tool
from
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=A2E1F4E2-BC0F-4403-B09F-7A677D55F274.
This tool will transmit your comments and a screenshot back to Microsoft. As
Jensen Harris explains at
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2006/06/23/644160.aspx, all SaS
comments do get read and routed to the right people at Microsoft."

I thought I was giving feedback on this MS Forum.



Anyhow, thanks for the help. In the future you'all might consider the
essence of the problems we come to you with rather than concentrating on how
stupid we might be in our preparation or presentation. After all "That's why
there is a beta process".

System: Dell, IP4, 2.4Ghz, .5Gb mem., 80Gb HDD, MS Win XP Prof, SP2, MS
Office Prof Plus 2007 Beta, Win Live One Care w/win Defender.

 

[Patrick Schmid]

The message is rather messy, so let me just reply here:
1. You should just remove the Outlook & Office plugins of Adobe Acrobat
Pro 6/7 via Control Panel, Add/Remove Programs. They cause lots of
Outlook crashes and the ones for other Office programs just don't work.
So for a 2007 installation, they are plain useless.
2. Disabling searchindexer is not a good idea. If you don't want instant
search in Outlook, remove WDS3 instead.
3. You should see if Outlook 2007 works fine in safe mode (Start, Run,
"outlook.exe /safe"). All add-ins are disabled in safe mode.
4. 3rd party add-ins are actually a huge performance issue for Outlook
2007. Outlook 2007 obviously has changes in the hooks that 3rd party
add-ins use and hence not every add-in that used to work fine with
Outlook 2003 works fine in 2007. That is to be expected and normal. You
can expect that most add-in developers will update their add-ins for
2007 by RTM or shortly thereafter. You can't expect flawless behavior
during the beta phase.
5. You might have just been experiencing issues with the instant search
feature indexing your emails. First time indexing can take up a lot of
CPU and slow down Outlook a lot. It is therefore recommended to leave
Outlook open at least for one entire night, so that indexing can take
place.
6. The junk email filter has some issues. Obviously it is not being
updated monthly like the one for 2003. In addition, it seems to stop
working sometimes, but then goes back on by itself again (or if you
force it via disabling it, closing Outlook, reopening it and
reactivating the filter). It's a bug and one that MS is working on
fixing.

Patrick Schmid

 

[kandodude]

Thank you Patrick for the no-nonsense reply. You addressed the issues, gave
me insight and a few pointers, minus the sarcastic remarks. That's what I
and all other posters, I'm sure, are seeking.

I find that "searchindexer" takes a huge amount of system resources when it
runs and slows down the opening of Outlook 2007 to a crawl. It also insists
on performing it's actions at the most inopportune times causing other
programs to stall. I can get along without it.

I now have a fairly well operating Outlook 2007 except for a lame Junk Mail
filter.

Thanks for your help.

 

[Patrick Schmid]

Searchindexer is WDS3. So if you don't need instant search, I'd strongly
suggest to remove it.
Otherwise, you won't have any search at all.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Tittelba]

Should searchindexer.exe constantly be accessing my HD? I've monitoring my HD
with Filemon and fileindexer is accessing my HD every sec or so. This has
been going on for weeks and I leave my computer one 24/7. The other issue is
that serchindexer was accessing my HD is often before I installed WDS3....I
had only install the search program needed for instant searching in Outlook.
I installed WDS3 later hoping maybe to fix this problem. It didn't. Any
idea's?

Thanks,
Tom

 

[Patrick Schmid]

Did you already install B2TR and WDS3 Beta 2? If not, links to the
downloads are on my website.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Tittelba]

Yes, I have both WDS3 Beta 3 and B2TR....installed in that order. It didn't
help.

 

[Patrick Schmid]

searchindexer is WDS3. The program you were asked to install to make
Instant Search in Outlook work was WDS3. WDS 3 Beta 1 (the one Outlook
Beta 2 asked about) just only worked with Outlook & OneNote as it
didn't' have a UI. WDS3 Beta 2 now has a UI.
Is the HD access causing a performance problem? If it isn't, then I
wouldn't worry about it. It might be accessing the hard drive constantly
to see if there are any changes that need to be indexed.
If you are concerned, I'd suggest to trigger a full rebuild of your
index (Control Panel, Indexing Options, Advanced). Then let it sit with
Outlook open over night and see if the HD access isn't getting better.

Patrick Schmid

 

[Tittelba]

Thanks for the info Patrick, I appreciate it. It is not causing a performance
issue but I am concerned a little bit as by HD never rests and I'm worried
about long term drive life expectancy given that the drive never rests and
never turns off (even in the middle of the night). I assume this is a bug and
will be fixed in the final release??

Thanks,
Tom

 

[Patrick Schmid]

I don't know whether this will be addressed or not. You should ask in a
WDS newsgroups about this.

Patrick Schmid