Printer wants fonts 'outlined' - help?

[flyersfan1966]

I followed instructions to save a 4-color postcard for commercial printing. I'm saving as postscript.

I found the advanced printer settings where I selected under "true type font download" -- I chose "outline".

The printer is still coming back saying I have yet to create outlines for the fonts. They say " each letter should be outlined if you click on one". Unfortunately, this is an online printer and they don't give tech help.

Anyone know what I can do??

 

[Mike Koewler]

Find a different printer.

Mike

 

[Jeff Daghir]

As far as I know, you can't do that with any version of Publisher. And it
shouldn't be necessary. As Mike said, I would find another printer.


--

Jeff Daghir
MPS Printing, Inc.
The Ink & Paper People!
Madison, IN
www.mpsprinting.com
(e-mail address removed)

 

[Mac]

They want the fonts converted from font data to simple vector data.

Applications like Illustrator, Freehand, and Corel Draw can do this.
Normally page layout applications do not.

IMHO one looses a fair amount of quality when you do this. Letterforms are
thickened and the nuances of a delicate font can be damaged.

 

[Odysseus]

They want the fonts converted from font data to simple vector data.

Applications like Illustrator, Freehand, and Corel Draw can do this.
Normally page layout applications do not.

IMHO one looses a fair amount of quality when you do this. Letterforms are
thickened and the nuances of a delicate font can be damaged.

If the conversion is done correctly (all of the above programs do so
IME) the outlines themselves are fine. The problems you describe are
because the hinting is lost, and they certainly make for very ugly
low-resolution screen previews, but they shouldn't be visible in
high-resolution (1270 dpi+) output except for the most delicate fonts in
very small sizes, which might need more resolution to look their best.
At any rate the maximum distance any element of a character path will
shift from lack of hinting is about one device pixel.

 

[Mac]

<<, but they shouldn't be visible in
high-resolution (1270 dpi+) output except for the most delicate fonts in
very small sizes, which might need more resolution to look their best>>

The difference is very visible on 2540 film on a light table using common
fonts like Times as well as more delicate cuts like MT Centaur. Even my
antique eyes don't need a loupe to see it.

 

[Odysseus]

<<, but they shouldn't be visible in
high-resolution (1270 dpi+) output except for the most delicate fonts in
very small sizes, which might need more resolution to look their best>>

The difference is very visible on 2540 film on a light table using common
fonts like Times as well as more delicate cuts like MT Centaur. Even my
antique eyes don't need a loupe to see it.

In that case something must be amiss, either with the outlining
procedure (too high a flatness setting?) or with something that's
happening to the file along the way to being output (rasterization at a
lower resolution than the device's?). Lack of hinting alone shouldn't be
causing any discrepancies larger than about 10 µm (ten microns, or 0.4
mils) at 2540 dpi.

 

[rich at trp]

-----Original Message-----
As far as I know, you can't do that with any version of Publisher. And it
shouldn't be necessary. As Mike said, I would find another printer.


--

Jeff Daghir
MPS Printing, Inc.
The Ink & Paper People!
Madison, IN
www.mpsprinting.com
(e-mail address removed)


.
If the color don't shift badly, print it to pdf and then

save that as a eps using the font to outline option. You
will need the full version of acrobat to do this.