Problem with document created in Mac and with opening on PC

[Vikings Nelietis]

Problem is that the document with Header and footer, and text in the
tables while is created in Mac Word when open it on PC MS Word 2000
(with all office updates) is generating an error and closes PC`s word.

Where can be a problem?

 

[jelosamkr]

IMHO its the Word~!!!
i have a problem when i open docs made in windows....
i use Office v.x
with all the updates..

 

[Beth Rosengard]

It's very likely that the document has some corruption. This is especially
probable in documents with many tables. To "uncorrupt" the document, see
this article: <http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/DocumentCorruption.htm>
If using Safari, hit refresh once or twice; better yet, use another browser
(like Firefox or Internet Explorer).

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[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Your tables are corrupt. Mac Word 2004 is more rugged than Word 2000 in
this respect. It uses the same Table Engine as Word 2000, but it's a later
model.

Select each table and use Table>Convert to convert it to text. Don't move
your selection and use Table>Convert to convert it back to a table again.
That will fix it.

To avoid the problem, avoid drag-and-drop editing in tables. This is one
thing that often causes the problem. Use Cut and Paste instead.

Cheers

Problem is that the document with Header and footer, and text in the
tables while is created in Mac Word when open it on PC MS Word 2000
(with all office updates) is generating an error and closes PC`s word.

Where can be a problem?

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[Vikings Nelietis]

Thanks All.

Seems that was a problem with tables.

 

[Jussi Liukkonen]

Hi,

slipping to off-topic, sort of, sorry about that, but FYI: Safari (up to
and including v1.2.4) closes the socket prematurely, before all of the
main frame (gzipped) content has been received. Whether the content is
displayed or not, depends on the current 'net lag: if the server manages
to shovel the data down to the browser fast enough to keep it fed, the
content shows just fine, as you noted. In other words, Safari seems to
ignore explicit Content-Length with gzip Content-Encoding - it should
wait until the specified amount of data has been received, lag or no lag.

I filed a bug report to Apple... you may see a few odd hits on your web
server from my testing

Cheers,
Jussi

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Hi Jussi,

While I maintain the Mac section of that site, I don't know much about
website and browser mechanics. We thought the problem was that Safari just
can't handle multiple frames, which the site uses. At any rate, I'm copying
this post to someone who will fully understand what you're talking about.
Whatever the problem, I sure hope Apple fixes Safari one of these days. Our
site is not the only one Safari struggles with, by far.

Thanks very much for the information.

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[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

Hi Jussi,

While I maintain the Mac section of that site, I don't know much about
website and browser mechanics. We thought the problem was that Safari just
can't handle multiple frames, which the site uses. At any rate, I'm copying
this post to someone who will fully understand what you're talking about.
Whatever the problem, I sure hope Apple fixes Safari one of these days. Our
site is not the only one Safari struggles with, by far.

Thanks very much for the information.

Its no wonder. Safari is Apple's Patched up version of UNIX Konqueor.
Which UNIX find so bad even they have jumped ship. The reason why Apple
could glom on to it.

And to beat it all in Aodbe's infinite wisedom (similar to Intuit's)
they have decided to bring back Browser PDF plugin support — here's the
kicker — it only works with Safari.

Sometime Apple can be brilliant. Some times they can be dumb as a light
post.

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[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Thanks Both:

Yep, we've been chasing this problem for a while (I'm the web coder for the
site).

It's really bad down here in Australia with a high hop-count. I have to
refresh three or four times to get Safari to load a page.

Apple is not "going" to fix this. I suspect they will eventually choose a
different browser. Phillip is on the right track here -- Firefox works well


In the meantime, there's rumours of IE 7 for the PC going into pubic beta.
There's no absolute law that says that may not make its way onto the Mac in
the near future It may be slow, but it's very rugged

Cheers

Hi Jussi,

While I maintain the Mac section of that site, I don't know much about
website and browser mechanics. We thought the problem was that Safari just
can't handle multiple frames, which the site uses. At any rate, I'm copying
this post to someone who will fully understand what you're talking about.
Whatever the problem, I sure hope Apple fixes Safari one of these days. Our
site is not the only one Safari struggles with, by far.

Thanks very much for the information.

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[Paul Berkowitz]

Yep, we've been chasing this problem for a while (I'm the web coder for the
site).

It's really bad down here in Australia with a high hop-count. I have to
refresh three or four times to get Safari to load a page.

Apple is not "going" to fix this. I suspect they will eventually choose a
different browser.

Nonsense. You're dreaming. The next version of Safari will ship in Tiger.
Try to get it fixed before then. File a repeat bug like Jussi did. You
(anyone) can join Apple Developer Connection (free "Online" membership) at
http://developer.apple.com/. Then go to http://bugreport.apple.com and file
a bug against Safari. The more people do this, the sooner it will get fixed.

Phillip is on the right track here -- Firefox works well



In the meantime, there's rumours of IE 7 for the PC going into pubic beta.
There's no absolute law that says that may not make its way onto the Mac in
the near future

Of course there is. IE has been discontinued on the Mac as you well know.
The IE development team has been completely disbanded and dispersed. There
are loads of other browsers, like Firefox, available, for those not happy
with Safari.

It may be slow, but it's very rugged

Not relevant here. ;-)


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[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

Thanks Both:

Yep, we've been chasing this problem for a while (I'm the web coder for the
site).

It's really bad down here in Australia with a high hop-count. I have to
refresh three or four times to get Safari to load a page.

Apple is not "going" to fix this. I suspect they will eventually choose a
different browser. Phillip is on the right track here -- Firefox works well


In the meantime, there's rumours of IE 7 for the PC going into pubic beta.
There's no absolute law that says that may not make its way onto the Mac in
the near future It may be slow, but it's very rugged

Sorry I beg to differ, I expect IE to return to mac Platform when that
fiery Furnace below freezes over. Apple and MS have had long a running
feud since the days Steve and Steve Started apple and when gates asked
if he could join in, the turned him down cold. He's held a grudge since,
he can't let go.

There was official news on the Internet, reported by cNet and PCworld
this past summer; that all versions of IE would be discontinued for All
platforms. And that when it returned it would actually be part of the
longhorn OS. it would be an internal part of the system. And updates
would only come through System SP's.

When apple came out with Safari and mail for OSX rather than keep IE as
their standard Bearer; Gates got ticked off and said that's it for the
Mac Platform and the last version of IE for Mac is 5.2.3. There hasn't
even been any security fixes.

I tried IE back in the days of IE3 and Navigator 3. I chose to go the
Netscape/Mozilla direction and never turned back. One thing that turned
me off was OE. I read newsgroups and have not too much email. OE's
handling of newsgroups was p*** poor to put mildly and Entourages isn't
a heck of a lot better.

So I don't ever expect to see IE to come out for Mac Platform ever again.

Cheers

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[Beth Rosengard]

Hi Phillip,

Well that statement is absolutely not true. MS just yesterday announced
that IE 7 for the PC is coming soon. As for the Mac, I agree with you.

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[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi Paul:

Unless you know something I don't (very probable...) Apple have ignored the
last several hundred bugs filed against Safari on this issue. I suspect
they will continue to ignore them in the future.

There is a substantial difficulty in getting a company that makes money from
selling software to take seriously a bug report on a piece of software they
don't "sell".

I know they disbanded the IE Mac team But I still believe they may
surprise us and release IE 7 for the Mac. But not soon...

Cheers

Nonsense. You're dreaming. The next version of Safari will ship in Tiger.
Try to get it fixed before then. File a repeat bug like Jussi did. You
(anyone) can join Apple Developer Connection (free "Online" membership) at
http://developer.apple.com/. Then go to http://bugreport.apple.com and file
a bug against Safari. The more people do this, the sooner it will get fixed.


Of course there is. IE has been discontinued on the Mac as you well know.
The IE development team has been completely disbanded and dispersed. There
are loads of other browsers, like Firefox, available, for those not happy
with Safari.



Not relevant here. ;-)

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