Problem with table handles

[judy dean]

In word 2004. According to the help once you point your mouse to a
table you should see two handles on the corner of the table, one for
resizing and one for moving the table. I have tried many times but
this seems do not work in word 2004. Is it a bug?. Thanks for your help.

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi Judy:

This is a combination of a Help editorial policy that results in trite and
simplistic nonsense in the help file, and a less-than-helpful user
interface.

1) The handles are not very obvious.

2) One will appear above the top left corner, the other will appear below
(practically attached to) the bottom right corner.

The top one is the "moving" handle. It's a square box with crossed arrows
in it. If you drag it, you move the table, setting its text-wrapping
property to "around".

The bottom one is the "re-size" handle. It is very small, about half the
size of the top one, and is a tiny hollow square.

In my testing in Word 2004, both handles appear when you hover anywhere
within the table. Personally, I don't use either. Floating tables are a
pagination vexation waiting to happen. I prefer to use the column and row
re-size handles to resize "parts" of a table rather than the whole thing.

Hint: Hold down your Shift key when dragging a column border to leave the
other column widths unchanged. Release it to adjust the two adjacent
columns leaving the rest of the table unaffected.

Hope this helps

In word 2004. According to the help once you point your mouse to a
table you should see two handles on the corner of the table, one for
resizing and one for moving the table. I have tried many times but
this seems do not work in word 2004. Is it a bug?. Thanks for your help.

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me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

 

[judy dean]

Thank you for your lenght answer and for your helpful tip. But my
problem is that the handles do not appear at all! I do not see them
even if I hover on top of them for five minutes! They are not there! It
seems to be a bug...

Thanks anyway.
JD

 

[CyberTaz]

Hi Judy -

It may help to turn off the ¶ so that only the table borders/gridlines are
visible. Then move the pointer to the table - it makes the "handles" more
readily apparent.

AFAIK, there have been no reported 'bugs' on the topic, so if you still
can't see the markers there must be something specific to your installation.
Try creating an empty table in a new blank doc & see if you experience the
same problem there. If they don't appear there post back so it can be
explored a little further.

If the handles *do* show up in the new doc it suggests that the problem is
actually with the doc where they *don't* show up. What happens if you click
in the table? Is it a Word table - for sure - or is it a graphic object that
simply _looks_ like a table? Make sure Office is fully up-to-date & run the
Repair Permissions in Disk Utility.

Let us know your results plus OS & Office version & system type.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[judy dean]

Thanks for your help. I did turn the P off. I also opened a template
file with a table and still the two handles do not show. I have Word
11.3 and the 10.4.8 Mac Os X.

It is not issue. Maybe I have some software installed that creates this
problem. I use a Wacom Tablet.

Thanks anyway.

JD

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi Judy:

It might be the WACOM Tablet -- try unplugging it and re-booting with just
the mouse enabled.

Of course, the table must be a "table" (not a "picture of a table") and it
must be in the top "layer".

So if the table were behind the text and there were something in front of
it, Word would not be able to detect that the mouse pointer is over a table
and would not enable the handles.

If you click "in" the table, we know that Word now knows where the mouse
pointer is: as you back away the handles should be visible, and vanish when
the mouse pointer travels outside the table.

You don't have any haxie running that makes the mouse pointer "visible" do
you? That could interfere with this...

Cheers

Thanks for your help. I did turn the P off. I also opened a template
file with a table and still the two handles do not show. I have Word
11.3 and the 10.4.8 Mac Os X.

It is not issue. Maybe I have some software installed that creates this
problem. I use a Wacom Tablet.

Thanks anyway.

JD

Hi Judy -

It may help to turn off the ¶ so that only the table borders/gridlines are
visible. Then move the pointer to the table - it makes the "handles" more
readily apparent.

AFAIK, there have been no reported 'bugs' on the topic, so if you still
can't see the markers there must be something specific to your installation.
Try creating an empty table in a new blank doc & see if you experience the
same problem there. If they don't appear there post back so it can be
explored a little further.

If the handles *do* show up in the new doc it suggests that the problem is
actually with the doc where they *don't* show up. What happens if you click
in the table? Is it a Word table - for sure - or is it a graphic object that
simply _looks_ like a table? Make sure Office is fully up-to-date & run the
Repair Permissions in Disk Utility.

Let us know your results plus OS & Office version & system type.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

Thank you for your lenght answer and for your helpful tip. But my
problem is that the handles do not appear at all! I do not see them
even if I hover on top of them for five minutes! They are not there! It
seems to be a bug...

Thanks anyway.
JD

On 2007-02-03 12:37:33 +0100, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word
Macintosh]" <[email protected]> said:

Hi Judy:

This is a combination of a Help editorial policy that results in trite and
simplistic nonsense in the help file, and a less-than-helpful user
interface.

1) The handles are not very obvious.

2) One will appear above the top left corner, the other will appear below
(practically attached to) the bottom right corner.

The top one is the "moving" handle. It's a square box with crossed arrows
in it. If you drag it, you move the table, setting its text-wrapping
property to "around".

The bottom one is the "re-size" handle. It is very small, about half the
size of the top one, and is a tiny hollow square.

In my testing in Word 2004, both handles appear when you hover anywhere
within the table. Personally, I don't use either. Floating tables are a
pagination vexation waiting to happen. I prefer to use the column and row
re-size handles to resize "parts" of a table rather than the whole thing.

Hint: Hold down your Shift key when dragging a column border to leave the
other column widths unchanged. Release it to adjust the two adjacent
columns leaving the rest of the table unaffected.

Hope this helps

On 3/2/07 8:36 PM, in article 2007020310364716807-jdean@inboxcom, "judy

In word 2004. According to the help once you point your mouse to a
table you should see two handles on the corner of the table, one for
resizing and one for moving the table. I have tried many times but
this seems do not work in word 2004. Is it a bug?. Thanks for your help.

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

 

[sayling]

Judy,

By the way, you need to be in 'Page Layout' view, not 'Normal' view to
see the handles.

Sayling

Hi Judy:

It might be the WACOM Tablet -- try unplugging it and re-booting with just
the mouse enabled.

Of course, the table must be a "table" (not a "picture of a table") and it
must be in the top "layer".

So if the table were behind the text and there were something in front of
it, Word would not be able to detect that the mouse pointer is over a table
and would not enable the handles.

If you click "in" the table, we know that Word now knows where the mouse
pointer is: as you back away the handles should be visible, and vanish when
the mouse pointer travels outside the table.

You don't have any haxie running that makes the mouse pointer "visible" do
you? That could interfere with this...

Cheers

Thanks for your help. I did turn the P off. I also opened a template
file with a table and still the two handles do not show. I have Word
11.3 and the 10.4.8 Mac Os X.

It is not issue. Maybe I have some software installed that creates this
problem. I use a Wacom Tablet.

Thanks anyway.

JD

On 2007-02-03 14:47:33 +0100, CyberTaz <[email protected]> said:

Hi Judy -
It may help to turn off the ¶ so that only the table borders/gridlines are
visible. Then move the pointer to the table - it makes the "handles" more
readily apparent.
AFAIK, there have been no reported 'bugs' on the topic, so if you still
can't see the markers there must be something specific to your installation.
Try creating an empty table in a new blank doc & see if you experiencethe
same problem there. If they don't appear there post back so it can be
explored a little further.
If the handles *do* show up in the new doc it suggests that the problem is
actually with the doc where they *don't* show up. What happens if you click
in the table? Is it a Word table - for sure - or is it a graphic object that
simply _looks_ like a table? Make sure Office is fully up-to-date & run the
Repair Permissions in Disk Utility.
Let us know your results plus OS & Office version & system type.
HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac
On 2/3/07 8:12 AM, in article 2007020314123116807-jdean@inboxcom, "judy
Thank you for your lenght answer and for your helpful tip. But my
problem is that the handles do not appear at all! I do not see them
even if I hover on top of them for five minutes! They are not there! It
seems to be a bug...
Thanks anyway.
JD
On 2007-02-03 12:37:33 +0100, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word
Macintosh]" <[email protected]> said:
Hi Judy:
This is a combination of a Help editorial policy that results in trite and
simplistic nonsense in the help file, and a less-than-helpful user
interface.
1) The handles are not very obvious.
2) One will appear above the top left corner, the other will appearbelow
(practically attached to) the bottom right corner.
The top one is the "moving" handle. It's a square box with crossed arrows
in it. If you drag it, you move the table, setting its text-wrapping
property to "around".
The bottom one is the "re-size" handle. It is very small, about half the
size of the top one, and is a tiny hollow square.
In my testing in Word 2004, both handles appear when you hover anywhere
within the table. Personally, I don't use either. Floating tables are a
pagination vexation waiting to happen. I prefer to use the column and row
re-size handles to resize "parts" of a table rather than the whole thing.
Hint: Hold down your Shift key when dragging a column border to leave the
other column widths unchanged. Release it to adjust the two adjacent
columns leaving the rest of the table unaffected.
Hope this helps
On 3/2/07 8:36 PM, in article 2007020310364716807-jdean@inboxcom, "judy
In word 2004. According to the help once you point your mouse to a
table you should see two handles on the corner of the table, one for
resizing and one for moving the table. I have tried many times but
this seems do not work in word 2004. Is it a bug?. Thanks for your help.

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

 

[judy dean]

Thank you all.

I have done and followed everything said here (even on different
machines with different configurations) but still the problem remains.
At this point I suppose I can say that this is a bug. It would be
interesting to see if others are having this problem: I suspect yes.
But because this is a tiny and not much used feature maybe it has not
been reported earlier.

Thank you.
JD

Judy,

By the way, you need to be in 'Page Layout' view, not 'Normal' view to
see the handles.

Sayling

Hi Judy:

It might be the WACOM Tablet -- try unplugging it and re-booting with just
the mouse enabled.

Of course, the table must be a "table" (not a "picture of a table") and it
must be in the top "layer".

So if the table were behind the text and there were something in front of
it, Word would not be able to detect that the mouse pointer is over a tab le
and would not enable the handles.

If you click "in" the table, we know that Word now knows where the mouse
pointer is: as you back away the handles should be visible, and vanish wh en
the mouse pointer travels outside the table.

You don't have any haxie running that makes the mouse pointer "visible" do
you? That could interfere with this...

Cheers

Thanks for your help. I did turn the P off. I also opened a template
file with a table and still the two handles do not show. I have Word
11.3 and the 10.4.8 Mac Os X.

It is not issue. Maybe I have some software installed that creates this
problem. I use a Wacom Tablet.

Thanks anyway.

JD

Hi Judy -

It may help to turn off the ¶ so that only the table borders/gridlin es are
visible. Then move the pointer to the table - it makes the "handles" m ore
readily apparent.

AFAIK, there have been no reported 'bugs' on the topic, so if you still
can't see the markers there must be something specific to your install ation.
Try creating an empty table in a new blank doc & see if you experience the
same problem there. If they don't appear there post back so it can be
explored a little further.

If the handles *do* show up in the new doc it suggests that the proble m is
actually with the doc where they *don't* show up. What happens if you click
in the table? Is it a Word table - for sure - or is it a graphic objec t that
simply _looks_ like a table? Make sure Office is fully up-to-date & ru n the
Repair Permissions in Disk Utility.

Let us know your results plus OS & Office version & system type.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

On 2/3/07 8:12 AM, in article 2007020314123116807-jdean@inboxcom, "judy
dean" <[email protected]> wrote:

Thank you for your lenght answer and for your helpful tip. But my
problem is that the handles do not appear at all! I do not see them
even if I hover on top of them for five minutes! They are not there! It
seems to be a bug...

Thanks anyway.
JD

On 2007-02-03 12:37:33 +0100, "John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word
Macintosh]" <[email protected]> said:

Hi Judy:

This is a combination of a Help editorial policy that results in tri te and
simplistic nonsense in the help file, and a less-than-helpful user
interface.

1) The handles are not very obvious.

2) One will appear above the top left corner, the other will appear below
(practically attached to) the bottom right corner.

The top one is the "moving" handle. It's a square box with crossed arrows
in it. If you drag it, you move the table, setting its text-wrapping
property to "around".

The bottom one is the "re-size" handle. It is very small, about hal f the
size of the top one, and is a tiny hollow square.

In my testing in Word 2004, both handles appear when you hover anywh ere
within the table. Personally, I don't use either. Floating tables are a
pagination vexation waiting to happen. I prefer to use the column a nd row
re-size handles to resize "parts" of a table rather than the whole t

hing.

Hint: Hold down your Shift key when dragging a column border to lea ve the
other column widths unchanged. Release it to adjust the two adjacent
columns leaving the rest of the table unaffected.

Hope this helps

On 3/2/07 8:36 PM, in article 2007020310364716807-jdean@inboxcom, "j udy
dean" <[email protected]> wrote:

In word 2004. According to the help once you point your mouse to a
table you should see two handles on the corner of the table, one for
resizing and one for moving the table. I have tried many times but
this seems do not work in word 2004. Is it a bug?. Thanks for your

help.

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410