Problems w/ Preview and Viewing on Design PC

[Chris]

I finished a web design in Publisher 2003 and everything is great... with one
exception. When I try to preview the site on the PC it was designed on, all
the alignment is lost and all the pages looked jumbled. When I publish to
web and take the HTML files to any other PC they look correct. When I try to
view these files from the same CD or thumb drive (rather than within
publisher), they still appear misaligned. It doesn't matter what my screen
resolution is set to. I have tried it on a friends identical PC ant it
appears as it should. Very odd... Any Ideas?

 

[David Bartosik]

Post a url so I can review the design and source.
Also state at what resolutions each machine is using and what browser each
machine is using.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

 

[Chris]

David,

I have sent you an email with the first page attached and a more detailed
description.

Thanks

Post a url so I can review the design and source.
Also state at what resolutions each machine is using and what browser each
machine is using.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I finished a web design in Publisher 2003 and everything is great... with one
exception. When I try to preview the site on the PC it was designed on, all
the alignment is lost and all the pages looked jumbled. When I publish to
web and take the HTML files to any other PC they look correct. When I try to
view these files from the same CD or thumb drive (rather than within
publisher), they still appear misaligned. It doesn't matter what my screen
resolution is set to. I have tried it on a friends identical PC ant it
appears as it should. Very odd... Any Ideas?

 

[Chris]

I was finally able to host my site and would be happy to email you the link.
I'd rather not post the link as I have a limited bandwidth allocation.

To add to the confusion, on my PC the pages display fine in Netscape and
Firefox/Mozilla but still display misaligned in IE

Post a url so I can review the design and source.
Also state at what resolutions each machine is using and what browser each
machine is using.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I finished a web design in Publisher 2003 and everything is great... with one
exception. When I try to preview the site on the PC it was designed on, all
the alignment is lost and all the pages looked jumbled. When I publish to
web and take the HTML files to any other PC they look correct. When I try to
view these files from the same CD or thumb drive (rather than within
publisher), they still appear misaligned. It doesn't matter what my screen
resolution is set to. I have tried it on a friends identical PC ant it
appears as it should. Very odd... Any Ideas?

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

Based on your details I was able to identify this as something that has come
up one other time. But we never could resolve it.

just fyi, the preview is the html so the preview will be the same as the
published.

There was a customer that had the same issue you are reporting. He also had
a Dell laptop. The html output would display as designed on all machines
he'd review it except on his laptop a logo an a few other items shifted
somewhat.

I had his pub file and never could reproduce it. I had to have him send me
screen shots of his claims. Microsoft could never repro either, something
that is required for them to pursue it. The only guess was that it was a
graphics display driver related matter on his laptop.

You said that you knew someone with the same Dell laptop as yours, I'd
compare what graphic cards and drivers are on each of them, see if they
differ.

That's all I have for you on this.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I was finally able to host my site and would be happy to email you the
link.
I'd rather not post the link as I have a limited bandwidth allocation.

To add to the confusion, on my PC the pages display fine in Netscape and
Firefox/Mozilla but still display misaligned in IE

Post a url so I can review the design and source.
Also state at what resolutions each machine is using and what browser
each
machine is using.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I finished a web design in Publisher 2003 and everything is great...
with one
exception. When I try to preview the site on the PC it was designed
on, all
the alignment is lost and all the pages looked jumbled. When I publish
to
web and take the HTML files to any other PC they look correct. When I
try to
view these files from the same CD or thumb drive (rather than within
publisher), they still appear misaligned. It doesn't matter what my
screen
resolution is set to. I have tried it on a friends identical PC ant it
appears as it should. Very odd... Any Ideas?

 

[DavidF]

David,

I don't think I was the customer you are speaking about, but I did ask about
why the HTML code, using Pub 2000, that was generated from my Dell laptop,
was different than the HTML generated from my desktop, with resolution, etc
the same. I sent you the different HTML files, and you admitted that
contrary to your expectations, the code was different. We never did resolve
that issue either, and I only used the code generated from the desktop from
that point.

I butt in now, because of a thought I had later. Both of my computers had
the text size set to medium in IE, and I noticed that if I changed the text
size to smallest in IE, on the laptop, that the posted site then looked ok.
I never did try generating code from the laptop to see if that made any
difference with my issue, but am now wondering what would happen if Chris
went to View > Text Size, and changed the size to smaller or smallest if
that would make any difference?

DavidF

Based on your details I was able to identify this as something that has come
up one other time. But we never could resolve it.

just fyi, the preview is the html so the preview will be the same as the
published.

There was a customer that had the same issue you are reporting. He also had
a Dell laptop. The html output would display as designed on all machines
he'd review it except on his laptop a logo an a few other items shifted
somewhat.

I had his pub file and never could reproduce it. I had to have him send me
screen shots of his claims. Microsoft could never repro either, something
that is required for them to pursue it. The only guess was that it was a
graphics display driver related matter on his laptop.

You said that you knew someone with the same Dell laptop as yours, I'd
compare what graphic cards and drivers are on each of them, see if they
differ.

That's all I have for you on this.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I was finally able to host my site and would be happy to email you the
link.
I'd rather not post the link as I have a limited bandwidth allocation.

To add to the confusion, on my PC the pages display fine in Netscape and
Firefox/Mozilla but still display misaligned in IE

Post a url so I can review the design and source.
Also state at what resolutions each machine is using and what browser
each
machine is using.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com


:

I finished a web design in Publisher 2003 and everything is great...
with one
exception. When I try to preview the site on the PC it was designed
on, all
the alignment is lost and all the pages looked jumbled. When I publish
to
web and take the HTML files to any other PC they look correct. When I
try to
view these files from the same CD or thumb drive (rather than within
publisher), they still appear misaligned. It doesn't matter what my
screen
resolution is set to. I have tried it on a friends identical PC ant it
appears as it should. Very odd... Any Ideas?

 

[Chris]

David here is my site if it helps - www.chrissmithtest.com

Based on your details I was able to identify this as something that has come
up one other time. But we never could resolve it.

just fyi, the preview is the html so the preview will be the same as the
published.

There was a customer that had the same issue you are reporting. He also had
a Dell laptop. The html output would display as designed on all machines
he'd review it except on his laptop a logo an a few other items shifted
somewhat.

I had his pub file and never could reproduce it. I had to have him send me
screen shots of his claims. Microsoft could never repro either, something
that is required for them to pursue it. The only guess was that it was a
graphics display driver related matter on his laptop.

You said that you knew someone with the same Dell laptop as yours, I'd
compare what graphic cards and drivers are on each of them, see if they
differ.

That's all I have for you on this.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

I was finally able to host my site and would be happy to email you the
link.
I'd rather not post the link as I have a limited bandwidth allocation.

To add to the confusion, on my PC the pages display fine in Netscape and
Firefox/Mozilla but still display misaligned in IE

Post a url so I can review the design and source.
Also state at what resolutions each machine is using and what browser
each
machine is using.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com


:

I finished a web design in Publisher 2003 and everything is great...
with one
exception. When I try to preview the site on the PC it was designed
on, all
the alignment is lost and all the pages looked jumbled. When I publish
to
web and take the HTML files to any other PC they look correct. When I
try to
view these files from the same CD or thumb drive (rather than within
publisher), they still appear misaligned. It doesn't matter what my
screen
resolution is set to. I have tried it on a friends identical PC ant it
appears as it should. Very odd... Any Ideas?

 

[JWPlatt]

Second half too long - now posting by paragraph...

What I found to work was to ungroup everything. It is a mino
annoyance because now I have to draw a selection box around the object
I want to move together to temporarily group them, but it's easy enough


-
JWPlat

 

[JWPlatt]

....and now the final paragraph - sheesh!

I actually found a bunch of problems going from Publisher 2000 to 200
for which I had to come up with work-arounds. Perhaps I'll post the
here later. Some of the more significant things: Default text bo
margins of .04 in Pub 2000 seems to equal about .025 in Pub 2002. Tex
leading (line spacing) of 1.0 in Pub 2000 seems to equal about 1.175 i
Pub 2002. Also, trying to overlay Pub 2002 table objects with row
less than about 0.25 inches high with other graphics completely ruin
any hope of accurate alignment. Rows must be at least a quarter inc
high to maintain consistent alignment with overlying objects


-
JWPlat

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

web design going from 2000 to 2002. yes very very drastic, but old news.
you certainly wouldn't like 2003.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

 

[JWPlatt]

*web design going from 2000 to 2002. yes very very drastic, but ol
news.
you certainly wouldn't like 2003.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

*

I won't go so far as to say I don't like 2002 or that I wouldn't lik
2003. I plan to stay current. There are some things missing like pag
name control, but its not a big deal. Once the migration is completed
or when creating something new in 2002, it works fine. It's just tha
the migration is way too difficult and inconsistent. We should be abl
to count on absolute measurments like textbox margins and line spacing
for example, to stay the same - an inch is an inch. Microsoft shoul
have taken a less arrogant approach to leaving compatibility behind.
And actually breaking grouping is simply not "works as designed.


-
JWPlat

 

[JWPlatt]

I should add one more piece of advice while responding to this fellow'
question. My assumption has been he either converted from an earlie
Publisher, has grouped objects, or both.

Objects converted from 2000 to 2002, or even cut and pasted from
converted 2000/2002 document to a fresh 2002 document often behav
oddly. Especially tables in my experience. I would recreate as man
tables as time allows rather than copy them over. But what fixed mos
problems was simply ungrouping things. I don't know if 2003 is th
same way, but from David's comment on 2003, I suspect it is


-
JWPlat

 

[David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]]

Page naming is back in 2003 but it's conditional.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

*web design going from 2000 to 2002. yes very very drastic, but old
news.
you certainly wouldn't like 2003.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
www.publishermvps.com
www.davidbartosik.com

*

I won't go so far as to say I don't like 2002 or that I wouldn't like
2003. I plan to stay current. There are some things missing like page
name control, but its not a big deal. Once the migration is completed,
or when creating something new in 2002, it works fine. It's just that
the migration is way too difficult and inconsistent. We should be able
to count on absolute measurments like textbox margins and line spacing,
for example, to stay the same - an inch is an inch. Microsoft should
have taken a less arrogant approach to leaving compatibility behind.
And actually breaking grouping is simply not "works as designed."