problems with output to and input from Word ?

[martincc]

Before I give up using OneNote and go back to just using Word 2007......
I've been trying out Onenote 2007 to use for gathering research for college
projects, but I will also need to produce & submit finished output in either
a Word or PDF document. Onenote doesn't seem very integrated/compatable with
Word 2007 and isn't very good at outputting data to other formats (Word or
PDF) or am I missing something?

Question 1
From ‘more cool features, send to Word’ it says
OneNote is great for gathering your thoughts before you are ready to create
a final or formal document. Collect your ideas and flesh out your thoughts by
using the flexible and unrestricted page layout in OneNote.
When you are ready to put the finishing touches on the final document, click:
File > Send To > Microsoft Office Word (Office Word 2003 or 2007 required).

If I use Onenote and file/send to/Microsoft office word or file/publish
pages/word document the formatting is all wrong, items are justified to the
left side and drawn items are in the wrong place (over on the right)

Question 2
If I send multiple pages to WORD, they all appear in Word as a continuous
stream, ie. no page breaks.

Question 3
If I output to PDF, the format is fine, but the quality of any screengrab is
very poor. Why?

Question 4
If I drag & drop from a word doc. into OneNote to gather notes, the text is
ok but the resolution of any screengrab contained in it is poor/unreadable
(looking at 200%)
Back in the original word doc also at 200% I can clearly read the text
within the screengrab.

Thanks in advance

 

[Ilya Koulchin]

If I use Onenote and file/send to/Microsoft office word or file/publish
pages/word document the formatting is all wrong, items are justified to the
left side and drawn items are in the wrong place (over on the right)

Word does not have all of OneNote's layout features, such as true
2-dimensional layout and arbitrary positioning of ink, text, and images.
If your final goal is to produce a word document, I'd recommend
restraining yourself to features compatible with word.

Question 2
If I send multiple pages to WORD, they all appear in Word as a continuous
stream, ie. no page breaks.

Yes, that is indeed the case.

Question 3
If I output to PDF, the format is fine, but the quality of any screengrab is
very poor. Why?

Your PDF reader might be opening the PDF scaled to fit the width of your
screen. This results in odd zoom levels (I get 121.96%, for instance).
Most fonts scale just fine to nearly any zoom level, but images with
fine details (screen clippings) tend to scale poorly to zoom levels that
aren't integer multiples (100%, 200%, 500%, etc). Try viewing the PDF at
100% zoom.

Question 4
If I drag & drop from a word doc. into OneNote to gather notes, the text is
ok but the resolution of any screengrab contained in it is poor/unreadable
(looking at 200%)
Back in the original word doc also at 200% I can clearly read the text
within the screengrab.

I'm not quite following. Could you describe the process how you're
creating the word doc and OneNote page, and at what zoom levels you're
viewing them at the different stages in more detail?

 

[martincc]

Hello Ilya, thanks for your reply on this.

Qs 1 & 2 -Because of the more freeform layout of OneNote compared to the
linear page structure of Word I can see why OneNote is not directly
compatable with Word regarding format.

The course I’m currently working on is Photography so my work in OneNote and
Word will contain plenty of images/screenshots/diagrams etc. as well as text,
so maybe images and image quality may be more important in my case..

Q3 The problem I still have is that if I output a page from OneNote to PDF
(file/Publish as PDF), any screenshots contained in that page appear to be
degraded (text characters are softer and have artifacts, like an
oversharpened image). I can see this by viewing both the Onenote and the PDF
side by side on the same screen at 200%

Q4 I have various notes and information currently in Word documents that I
will want to import into OneNote. (I have been using select all/copy from
Word then paste onto a page in OneNote.) The thing I cannot work out at the
moment is why some of the screenshots contained in these existing word docs
are of equal quality when pasted into Onenote, but others are degraded in a
similar way as I see in the PDF problem. Again I can see this by viewing the
OneNote and Word versions side by side at 200% on the same screen.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Q3 The problem I still have is that if I output a page from OneNote
to PDF (file/Publish as PDF), any screenshots contained in that
page appear to be degraded (text characters are softer and have
artifacts, like an oversharpened image). I can see this by viewing
both the Onenote and the PDF side by side on the same screen at 200%

Is this also happening if you produce a PDF not with the PDF/XPS add-on
but with some other tool, f.e. Acrobat (where there are settings
especially for the resolution of images) or PDFCreator (open source) [1]

Rainald
[1] http://www.pdfforge.org/

 

[martincc]

Q3 The problem I still have is that if I output a page from OneNote
to PDF (file/Publish as PDF), any screenshots contained in that
page appear to be degraded (text characters are softer and have
artifacts, like an oversharpened image). I can see this by viewing
both the Onenote and the PDF side by side on the same screen at 200%

Is this also happening if you produce a PDF not with the PDF/XPS add-on
but with some other tool, f.e. Acrobat (where there are settings
especially for the resolution of images) or PDFCreator (open source) [1]

Rainald
[1] http://www.pdfforge.org/


Hello Rainald,

I have just created a PDF of the same page (

 

[martincc]

Q3 The problem I still have is that if I output a page from OneNote
to PDF (file/Publish as PDF), any screenshots contained in that
page appear to be degraded (text characters are softer and have
artifacts, like an oversharpened image). I can see this by viewing
both the Onenote and the PDF side by side on the same screen at 200%

Is this also happening if you produce a PDF not with the PDF/XPS add-on
but with some other tool, f.e. Acrobat (where there are settings
especially for the resolution of images) or PDFCreator (open source) [1]

Rainald
[1] http://www.pdfforge.org/


Hello Rainald,

I have just created a PDF from the document (from Word 2007/save
as/PDF/optimised for standard.
In the resulting PDF the screenshot element is slightly degraded if viewed
at 200%, but nowhere near as bad as the PDF created from OneNote.

So to clarify, in the Word document and the OneNote document all elements in
the page are perfectly clear.
In the PDF versions, all the text, lines, weblinks etc are perfectly clear,
but the screenshot contained in the page is fuzzy, visible in the PDF from
Word doc, and very bad in the PDF from OneNote version.

as a lot of my work will contain images and screenshots, I think I will just
not use PDF as an output format.

 

[Rainald Taesler]

Q3 The problem I still have is that if I output a page from
OneNote to PDF (file/Publish as PDF), any screenshots contained
in that page appear to be degraded (text characters are softer
and have artifacts, like an oversharpened image). I can see this
by viewing both the Onenote and the PDF side by side on the same
screen at 200%

Is this also happening if you produce a PDF not with the PDF/XPS
add-on but with some other tool, f.e. Acrobat (where there are
settings especially for the resolution of images) or PDFCreator
(open source) [1]

Rainald
[1] http://www.pdfforge.org/

I have just created a PDF from the document (from Word 2007/save
as/PDF/optimised for standard.

What did you use?
Acrobat?
If so: Did you choose a higher resolution for images (not only
standard)?
One can fine tune the quality in Acrobat to printer output.

In the resulting PDF the screenshot element is slightly degraded if
viewed at 200%, but nowhere near as bad as the PDF created from
OneNote.

Does not sound too good.
It seems that the usage of the PDF/XPS add-on is someway restricted in
ON. Some options available when using it from Word are missing in ON :-(

So to clarify, in the Word document and the OneNote document all
elements in the page are perfectly clear.
In the PDF versions, all the text, lines, weblinks etc are
perfectly clear, but the screenshot contained in the page is fuzzy,
visible in the PDF from Word doc, and very bad in the PDF from
OneNote version.

as a lot of my work will contain images and screenshots, I think I
will just not use PDF as an output format.

Would be logical if you can not improve things by fine-tuning.
f you do not yet use Acrobat, get the latest version. For *professional*
output it's needed.

Rainald