Project Manager vs. Project Owner

[Maleza]

Hi,

Can someone tell me what the difference between project manager and
project owner is?

In other words, when does the system consider you a project manager and
when are you considered the project owner.

Thanks.

 

[Dale Howard [MVP]]

Maleza --

Read the Background Information section of the following FAQ:

http://www.projectserverexperts.com/Shared Documents/changeprojmgr.htm

Also, refer to the rest of the FAQ because you will eventually need to
change the Owner and/or Manager of a project. Hope this helps.

 

[Maleza]

Thanks.

Maleza --

Read the Background Information section of the following FAQ:

http://www.projectserverexperts.com/Shared Documents/changeprojmgr.htm

Also, refer to the rest of the FAQ because you will eventually need to
change the Owner and/or Manager of a project. Hope this helps.

 

[Linda Wilson]

How is the Project owner table populated? I have a Project Owner who needs
to be changed and the replacements name is not in the table... they are a
Project Manager and PWA user..

Thanks

 

[Dale Howard [MVP]]

Linda --

The Owner list is comprised of those who are members of the Project
Managers, Portfolio Managers, and Administrators groups in PWA. Hope this
helps.

 

[Linda Wilson]

Thanks Dale, but in checking this person is a Project Manager and Portfolio
Manager... I will not make him an Admin however... that's a big No No...

 

[Dale Howard [MVP]]

Linda --

Is the person in question a member of any other Group that might block their
permissions to open a project? If so, remove him/her from any Groups other
than either the Portfolio Managers group or the Project Managers group.
Hope this helps.

 

[Linda Wilson]

I compared his group assignments against the other 20 that show up in the
Owner table.. He matches against most of them... the difference is he didn't
have Task Team Lead... I changed his group assignments to match up with
others in the list and he still doesn't show up in the Owner table... I
checked him in Enterprise Resource Pool as well...

So you see my quandry here? I even compared and matched his Categories and
checked his rights assingments...

 

[Dale Howard [MVP]]

Linda --

You should control Project Server security primarily by adding users to
Groups. You should rarely ever edit an individual user's account in PWA,
and should only do so as an override for that user's Group permissions. How
are you handling user security in your organization? It sounds like you are
setting individual permssions and Categories for each user account. If so,
you have created a Project Server security nightmare, both for yourself and
for Project Server. That alone could explain why the permissions don't work
correctly for this one user account.

For this user, edit his/her account by removing any Categories you have
included, and setting permissions in the Global Permissions grid back to
"Not Allowed" (neither Allow or Deny is selected). Also, remove this user
from any Group other than the Portfolio Managers or Project Managers group.
Let us know what you are doing, and if any of this helps.

 

[Jerry B]

I'm still a little fuzzy on the difference between a team lead and a project
manager. I want to create team leads who can view projects and approve
timesheets.

It looks like the way to make someone a project manager is to get him/her
to Collaborate --> Publish --> Republish Assignments and click "Become the
manager . . ." (Is that right, or is there another way to make a particular
resource the PM?)

How do I make someone a TEAM LEAD?

Also, I have some situations where there is no team lead and the Proj
Manager, himself, does the timesheet approvals. How do I do that?

(I went thru the threads here and, also, your blue book, but can't find the
answer. Our site is new to MSP 2003 Server.)

 

[Jerry B]

When I ask "How do I make someone a TEAM LEAD? ", I mean, how do I take a
resource who already has the role of team lead (with the corresponding
permissions) and assign him as the team lead for a particular project. He has
"approve timesheets" permissions, but I only want him to be able to approve
the timesheets for the project where he is the team lead.

 

[Dale Howard [MVP]]

Jerry B --

Think of a Team Lead as an assistant to the project manager who assists with
some project management-related activities without being a full project
manager. If you want someone to be both a Team Lead AND a project manager,
then add this person to the Project Managers group. If you want this person
to receive the task updates from team members and approve them into the
Microsoft Project plan, then he/she will need to open and republish the
project(s) as you indicate. Do know this, however: there can only be one
person who receives task updates for EACH TASK in the project. Hope this
helps.

 

[Linda Wilson]

Hi Dale,
Sorry, I must have given you the wrong impression... we add users to
groups... I was just checking his group assignments against the others... and
then for giggles lookedin the categories and compared permissions... So,
still having the same problem... he belongs to Project Managers, Portfolio
Managers only and still does not show up in the Owner table.... and I
verified that his global permissions is set to Zero - no allow and no deny
check boxes...

Will do some more searching... the concept is certainly simple... much like
Active Directory groups...

Thanks for your brains on this...
Linda

 

[Dale Howard [MVP]]

Linda --

Understood. You are handling security correctly in Project Server. Whew!


Let us know if you track down the cause of this mysterious little problem.