pst backup mystery

J

Joe Bloggs

Hi.

Using Office 2003 with Vista SP1

I backup all my Outlook folders in one "pst" file most months and call them
"outlook-03-09" for March backup and so on each month.

Today I created May backup "outlook-05-09" and tried deleted March file, it
will not delete with Outlook running. So I closed Outlook.



When I now start Outlook it looks for the deleted file and says default
e-mail folders can not be found. So I have to restore for recycle bin and
leave in folder.

I like to delete old backups and just keep most recent. Any idea why this is
happening?

Thanks
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

Because you failed to disconnect the file from the Outlook profile before
you deleted it.
You must close any PST file from Outlook before you delete it from the hard
drive.
 
J

Joe Bloggs

Thanks. But how do I now get round this? I have just created a brand new
backup and I still have the same problem.

I think I had closed it, surely by closing Outlook down you are closing the
file?

Sorry, novice here!



Russ Valentine said:
Because you failed to disconnect the file from the Outlook profile before
you deleted it.
You must close any PST file from Outlook before you delete it from the
hard drive.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Joe Bloggs said:
Hi.

Using Office 2003 with Vista SP1

I backup all my Outlook folders in one "pst" file most months and call
them
"outlook-03-09" for March backup and so on each month.

Today I created May backup "outlook-05-09" and tried deleted March file,
it
will not delete with Outlook running. So I closed Outlook.



When I now start Outlook it looks for the deleted file and says default
e-mail folders can not be found. So I have to restore for recycle bin and
leave in folder.

I like to delete old backups and just keep most recent. Any idea why this
is happening?

Thanks
 
D

DL

With what are you backing up the data file?
BTW a backup, today, of your data file will create a backup containg all
data. You cannot do an incremental backup of the data file

Joe Bloggs said:
Thanks. But how do I now get round this? I have just created a brand new
backup and I still have the same problem.

I think I had closed it, surely by closing Outlook down you are closing
the file?

Sorry, novice here!



Russ Valentine said:
Because you failed to disconnect the file from the Outlook profile before
you deleted it.
You must close any PST file from Outlook before you delete it from the
hard drive.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Joe Bloggs said:
Hi.

Using Office 2003 with Vista SP1

I backup all my Outlook folders in one "pst" file most months and call
them
"outlook-03-09" for March backup and so on each month.

Today I created May backup "outlook-05-09" and tried deleted March file,
it
will not delete with Outlook running. So I closed Outlook.



When I now start Outlook it looks for the deleted file and says default
e-mail folders can not be found. So I have to restore for recycle bin
and
leave in folder.

I like to delete old backups and just keep most recent. Any idea why
this is happening?

Thanks
 
D

Diane Poremsky [MVP]

Right click on the pst in the folder list and choose Close. Outlook will
hold it open for up to 30 min - then you can move or delete it.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]



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Joe Bloggs said:
Thanks. But how do I now get round this? I have just created a brand new
backup and I still have the same problem.

I think I had closed it, surely by closing Outlook down you are closing
the file?

Sorry, novice here!



Russ Valentine said:
Because you failed to disconnect the file from the Outlook profile before
you deleted it.
You must close any PST file from Outlook before you delete it from the
hard drive.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Joe Bloggs said:
Hi.

Using Office 2003 with Vista SP1

I backup all my Outlook folders in one "pst" file most months and call
them
"outlook-03-09" for March backup and so on each month.

Today I created May backup "outlook-05-09" and tried deleted March file,
it
will not delete with Outlook running. So I closed Outlook.



When I now start Outlook it looks for the deleted file and says default
e-mail folders can not be found. So I have to restore for recycle bin
and
leave in folder.

I like to delete old backups and just keep most recent. Any idea why
this is happening?

Thanks
 
B

Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]

I think I had closed it, surely by closing Outlook down you are closing the
file?

You may be closing the file from a file system perspective, but you haven't
removed the reference to the file from the mail profile. You can do that by
right-clicking the root of the folder tree and selecting Close or by clicking
File>Data File Management and removing it there or by using the Data Files
button in Mail applet in Control Panel to remove it. Once it's out of the
mail profile, then you can delete it from disk. As far as Outlook is
concerned right now, that file is still beinf referenced. Try to remove it
with the Mail applet. If you can't you'll have to create a new mail profile.
 
J

Joe Bloggs

With what are you backing up the data file?

I'm simply using the import / export facility and saving everything I can
into a PST file.

Right click on the pst in the folder list and choose Close. Outlook will
hold it open for up to 30 min - then you can move or delete it.

Sorry if I'm stupid but I don't see a PST file in folder list


First to admit I am totally confused my mail profiles etc ....


Everything is working fine I am simply bugged by fact I can't romove old
backup files

Thanks




DL said:
BTW a backup, today, of your data file will create a backup containg all
data. You cannot do an incremental backup of the data file

Joe Bloggs said:
Thanks. But how do I now get round this? I have just created a brand new
backup and I still have the same problem.

I think I had closed it, surely by closing Outlook down you are closing
the file?

Sorry, novice here!



Russ Valentine said:
Because you failed to disconnect the file from the Outlook profile
before you deleted it.
You must close any PST file from Outlook before you delete it from the
hard drive.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi.

Using Office 2003 with Vista SP1

I backup all my Outlook folders in one "pst" file most months and call
them
"outlook-03-09" for March backup and so on each month.

Today I created May backup "outlook-05-09" and tried deleted March
file, it
will not delete with Outlook running. So I closed Outlook.



When I now start Outlook it looks for the deleted file and says default
e-mail folders can not be found. So I have to restore for recycle bin
and
leave in folder.

I like to delete old backups and just keep most recent. Any idea why
this is happening?

Thanks
 
B

Brian Tillman [MVP - Outlook]

I'm simply using the import / export facility and saving everything I can
into a PST file.

Export/import is not a backup. A copy of the original PST is a backup.
Sorry if I'm stupid but I don't see a PST file in folder list

The root of the folder tree is what you want to click on.
 
D

DL

Thats the source of your problem, niether Import or Export is reccommended
for outlook data files
The MS Outlook site has a free outlook backup addin

Joe Bloggs said:
With what are you backing up the data file?

I'm simply using the import / export facility and saving everything I can
into a PST file.

Right click on the pst in the folder list and choose Close. Outlook will
hold it open for up to 30 min - then you can move or delete it.

Sorry if I'm stupid but I don't see a PST file in folder list


First to admit I am totally confused my mail profiles etc ....


Everything is working fine I am simply bugged by fact I can't romove old
backup files

Thanks




DL said:
BTW a backup, today, of your data file will create a backup containg all
data. You cannot do an incremental backup of the data file

Joe Bloggs said:
Thanks. But how do I now get round this? I have just created a brand new
backup and I still have the same problem.

I think I had closed it, surely by closing Outlook down you are closing
the file?

Sorry, novice here!



Because you failed to disconnect the file from the Outlook profile
before you deleted it.
You must close any PST file from Outlook before you delete it from the
hard drive.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi.

Using Office 2003 with Vista SP1

I backup all my Outlook folders in one "pst" file most months and call
them
"outlook-03-09" for March backup and so on each month.

Today I created May backup "outlook-05-09" and tried deleted March
file, it
will not delete with Outlook running. So I closed Outlook.



When I now start Outlook it looks for the deleted file and says
default
e-mail folders can not be found. So I have to restore for recycle bin
and
leave in folder.

I like to delete old backups and just keep most recent. Any idea why
this is happening?

Thanks
 
J

Joe Bloggs

Thanks for your help folks. Installed the Outlook backup add on which is at

http://office.microsoft.com/en-gb/outlook/HA010875321033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033

Regards
Phil



DL said:
Thats the source of your problem, niether Import or Export is reccommended
for outlook data files
The MS Outlook site has a free outlook backup addin

Joe Bloggs said:
With what are you backing up the data file?

I'm simply using the import / export facility and saving everything I can
into a PST file.

Right click on the pst in the folder list and choose Close. Outlook
will
hold it open for up to 30 min - then you can move or delete it.

Sorry if I'm stupid but I don't see a PST file in folder list


First to admit I am totally confused my mail profiles etc ....


Everything is working fine I am simply bugged by fact I can't romove old
backup files

Thanks




DL said:
BTW a backup, today, of your data file will create a backup containg all
data. You cannot do an incremental backup of the data file

Thanks. But how do I now get round this? I have just created a brand
new
backup and I still have the same problem.

I think I had closed it, surely by closing Outlook down you are closing
the file?

Sorry, novice here!



Because you failed to disconnect the file from the Outlook profile
before you deleted it.
You must close any PST file from Outlook before you delete it from the
hard drive.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Hi.

Using Office 2003 with Vista SP1

I backup all my Outlook folders in one "pst" file most months and
call
them
"outlook-03-09" for March backup and so on each month.

Today I created May backup "outlook-05-09" and tried deleted March
file, it
will not delete with Outlook running. So I closed Outlook.



When I now start Outlook it looks for the deleted file and says
default
e-mail folders can not be found. So I have to restore for recycle bin
and
leave in folder.

I like to delete old backups and just keep most recent. Any idea why
this is happening?

Thanks
 

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