Publisher 2007 Web Design adds blank spaces in Tables

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Phil

When I create a pub file using tables, I like to add a border of about 1px
around the table. When I select "view as web page" it adds several blank
lines below the text. The longer the text is, the more blank space is added.

Whan can I do to ensure the border is closely following the text on web pages?
 
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DavidF

I am having a hard time envisioning exactly what you are doing. Is the text
below the table or within the table? One thing to keep in mind is that
tables are converted to images when your convert to html, and that alone
will make the text within the table look different. If you have an example
posted, please give us a link to it and perhaps then we can give better
advice...or describe in more detail what you are doing so I can try to
reproduce it.

DavidF
 
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Phil

DavidF,

Thanks for your response. All text stays within the cell of the Table, but
the text seems to be padded at the bottom with a lot of blank space. If I
designate the text to print at the bottom of the cell, then the blank space
appears at the top. This only seems to be a problem if I have several
paragraphs of text in one cell. (I get the same problem with text boxes
also). I've worked with Publisher for seveal years and thought I knew it
pretty well, but this problem has me stumped. Here is an example of a web
page with the problem. Just scroll to the bottom of the page and you will
see that the border is several blank lines below the text.

http://www.sir-web.org/computer/2007_meetings/jan_2007_meeting.htm
 
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DavidF

Phil,

OK...thanks. It is so much easier to make suggestions with good examples and
specifics.

In your example page I suspect the problem has to do with how you have the
return links formatted. Are you using tabs to "left and right justify" those
links? Don't use tabs...one of those things that doesn't convert to html
well in a Pub web doc. You might remove those return links from your main
text box, create two new small text boxes without borders, one for the each
return link/text, and then place those text boxes to the bottom left and the
right of the upper text box to get a similar effect as you have now. I would
just let the link text boxes snap to the lower corners... You can left or
right justify w/in those individual text boxes. Hope that is clear.

Also, go to View > Special Characters and check. That will show you the
spaces, and more importantly the paragraph symbols in your text boxes. You
get a paragraph symbol when you hit the Enter key at the end of a sentence
or paragraph. Your example text box may have additional paragraph symbols
below the links text that are creating the space. Back space until you see
no paragraph symbol at the end of the line of text. Instead you will see
another symbol that resembles a small sun or something like that. Make sure
the last of the text in your text box or your tables have this symbol
instead of the paragraph symbol by backspacing. I would also look for this
in your tables, as you indicated that you see the problem most often when
you have more than one paragraph. One thing you can try is to use Shift +
Enter for a hard return to get a new line. This will give you a left
pointing arrow type symbol, and will change the way that the spacing and
padding occurs. Try it even to separate two paragraphs and it will change
the spacing. I also use this to work around problems with bulleted lists. I
do a regular return to get a new bulleted line, but then go back to the end
of the first bulleted line and hit Shift + Enter...just play around with the
combination of enter and shift +enter...

And finally, another thing I would try, especially if you started with a
Publisher template is to click in the text box and then look at the font
tool bar. To the left of the font type you will see a "text style" option.
It may say something like "Body Text 3". Click on the downward pointing
chevron/arrow and choose "clear formatting". This will change the way the
whole text box is formatted...maybe good, maybe not, but it will impact the
padding and spacing.

You already know about the text box formatting...top, bottom, etc, and of
course you can vary the Text Box Margins, and even the Text autofitting...

These are just some ideas that you can play with, that I have found affects
both interior spacing and exterior. What you are running up against is the
challenge of converting print formatted documents to html...and some print
formatting just doesn't translate well. Hope one of these ideas brings you a
solution....

DavidF
 

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