Publisher MVPs HELP!

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Don Schmidt

David, Ed, JoAnn, John,

Using Publisher 2000

What am I overlooking?

Please take a look at my site

www.vanusa.org

Tell me how to get ride of the Bold titles in the page links on all seven
pages and on page seven the Bold problem also shows up in the Tri-Mountain
listing and in the Tri-Mountain map, street identities.

I've verified the fonts are available and there doesn't seem to be any
overlapping in the affected pieces. And no, bold isn't selected in the Pub
file.


The only recent change is I went to Windows XP and reformatted my drives to
ntfs.

Reinstall Publisher?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MSFT MVP]

I don't use Publisher to do websites but I did see something odd. Your links
on the left look like Arial to me but the source indicates they are supposed
to be Comic Sans MS. When I tried to check it in FrontPage, it tells me the
links are .gifs.

I am so glad I use FrontPage. Sorry. I'm sure one of the guys will be able
to help you.
 
D

Don Schmidt

Strange. The links are in Verdana font. Well, supposed to be.


--
Don
Vancouver, USA


JoAnn Paules said:
I don't use Publisher to do websites but I did see something odd. Your
links on the left look like Arial to me but the source indicates they are
supposed to be Comic Sans MS. When I tried to check it in FrontPage, it
tells me the links are .gifs.

I am so glad I use FrontPage. Sorry. I'm sure one of the guys will be able
to help you.
 
M

Mary Sauer

I saved your image, when I view it in Irfanview the words are no longer bold and they
do appear to be Verdana. The seven links downloads as one gif,

--
Mary Sauer MSFT MVP
http://office.microsoft.com/

Don Schmidt said:
Strange. The links are in Verdana font. Well, supposed to be.


--
Don
Vancouver, USA


JoAnn Paules said:
I don't use Publisher to do websites but I did see something odd. Your links on the
left look like Arial to me but the source indicates they are supposed to be Comic
Sans MS. When I tried to check it in FrontPage, it tells me the links are .gifs.

I am so glad I use FrontPage. Sorry. I'm sure one of the guys will be able to help
you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



Don Schmidt said:
David, Ed, JoAnn, John,

Using Publisher 2000

What am I overlooking?

Please take a look at my site

www.vanusa.org

Tell me how to get ride of the Bold titles in the page links on all seven pages
and on page seven the Bold problem also shows up in the Tri-Mountain listing and
in the Tri-Mountain map, street identities.

I've verified the fonts are available and there doesn't seem to be any
overlapping in the affected pieces. And no, bold isn't selected in the Pub file.


The only recent change is I went to Windows XP and reformatted my drives to ntfs.

Reinstall Publisher?
 
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DavidF

Hi Don,

You have probably identified the problem yourself...overlapping page
elements, which converts the text to an image, and makes it appear 'bold'.

This is most obvious with the Tri-Mountain ad has two small images within
the text box, which converts the text box to an image. The same is probably
true of the map, though it is not as obvious what is overlapping.

I imagine the problem with your nav bar is caused by the small images to the
left of the text. Once again this converts the text to an image and renders
it 'bold' in appearance. Are you trying to insert the small images in-line?
Perhaps insert your pictures beside the text box and use the snap to
function to prevent overlapping.

Perhaps run the Design Checker to spot where you have the overlapping issues
if you can't spot them.

DavidF
 
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Don Schmidt

Thanks for the suggestions David.

The thing is it all looked ok until I upgraded to Windows XP.

I reinstalled Publisher 2000
Just got through updating my display driver.
Rebuilt the entire website.

Tried removing the graphics in the Tri-Mountain text box without curing that
part.

I'm thinking XP and Pub 2000 may have an issue. ??
 
D

DavidF

Well, I am not having any problems running Pub 2000 on my XP machine, so I
don't think there is any basic incompatibility there.

I looked at your Tri Mountain ad again and see that you took away the
border, but you still have the ?golf hole flag? and the ?golf bag? images
overlapping the text box, which has converted the text to an image. If you
try to select any of the text, you can't, but you can right click it and
save it as an image, while right below you have a text box where you can
select the text.

Now why this looked different before the conversion to XP, I don't know. Is
it possible that you somehow, someway changed the Target Audience setting
under Web Properties? David Bartosik recently pointed out to me that you
could actually overlap an image, without converting the text to an image if
you used the 'High fidelity" setting for IE and Navigator 4.0 or later. You
might try generating some test html files under the higher setting and see
if that helps. Are you using a newer version of IE now?

Sorry, but I don't have a better answer for you, but perhaps THE MAN, David
Bartosik will.

DavidF
 
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Don Schmidt

You lost me on the "High fidelity" try.

What I thought I might do is take piece parts out of the site until the link
list displays correctly, then make adjustments or changes on the offending
piece parts.

The images in the link list are replacements to the Christmas Tree ornaments
that were there. The site is basically the red and green Christmas theme
page near the end of the offerings in Publisher 2000.

Thanks again for your suggestions.
 
D

DavidF

Don,
Sorry I was not more clear. Open your pub document. Go to File > Web
Properties > Target Audience. There you have two choices. Choose the second
'Microsoft Internet Explorer Netscape Navigator 4.0 or later (high
fidelity). Then do a 'Save as a Web Page' to create new html files, and see
if that helps. I am just guessing here...

Though I had built my site using the first option, I experimented with the
second and found I could overlap images with text boxes without creating
gifs. However, it also produced some other issues I didn't like. If you want
to read the thread, it was one you started on 3/21/05 Creating Text boxes
above text boxes.

DavidF
 
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David Bartosik [MSFT MVP]

each of the menu links is a gif image that includes the character. If you
look close enough you can see the character has a gray background instead of
transparent and it's a different gray then the page background. Looks like
the text is layered and grouped to the character image and so each button is
a gif and font changed in the image conversion. Looks like David F. has
covered this already. Windows XP as the OS would not effect the Publisher
file nor the html output. The one thing that would change is that Windows XP
loads IE 6, so if you had an older browser prior, then now you are using the
latest one.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com
 
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Don Schmidt

Thanks for the analysis David. The Bocce Man icon is a gif file I built by
scanning the image then converting the background color, then substituting
the original Christmas Tree ornament on the links menu. When right clicking
on the original image, it offered to change the image, so I did it.
Presently, I've copied the website to a "work" folder where I'll do some
dissecting and experimenting. Hope to build a better display.

BTW I tried David F's suggesting of High Fidelity and text got moved all
over the place.

Take care,


--
Don
Vancouver, USA


David Bartosik said:
each of the menu links is a gif image that includes the character. If you
look close enough you can see the character has a gray background instead
of transparent and it's a different gray then the page background. Looks
like the text is layered and grouped to the character image and so each
button is a gif and font changed in the image conversion. Looks like David
F. has covered this already. Windows XP as the OS would not effect the
Publisher file nor the html output. The one thing that would change is
that Windows XP loads IE 6, so if you had an older browser prior, then now
you are using the latest one.

David Bartosik - [MSFT MVP]
http://www.publishermvps.com
http://www.davidbartosik.com
 

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