Put table at top of second newspaper column after column break

[Chris]

I'm putting tables inside of newspaper columns. My first table doesn't
necessarily fill the first column, but I want the second table to be at the
top of the second column. When I use a column break after the first table, I
cannot find any way to get the second table to line up at the top of the
second column. There is always a line above the table, and any attempt to
delete that line simply deletes the column break. How can I put a table at
the top of the second column?

 

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

I think that the best that you can do is to select the paragraph mark (¶)
that is at the top of the column and then use format paragraph to remove any
space before or after the paragraph and set the line spacing to Exactly 1pt
(the minimum). You probably won't be able to tell that the table is 1pt
lower.

Another way however would be to press enter at the top of the first column
to push the text in that column down.

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[Tony Jollans]

You could also format the paragraph mark at the top of the second column as
hidden text.

 

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

Hi Tony,

That does not seem to achieve the desired result in Word 2007 at least.

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[Stefan Blom]

It certainly works here. Perhaps you forgot to clear the option to print
hidden text?

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Microsoft Word MVP


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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Use the same techniques described in
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFldsFms/ControlPgBrksInTables.htm. In this
case, format the entire table (every row) as "Keep with next." It will be
forced into the next column without requiring a column break.

 

[Chris]

Thanks! Using "Keep with next" works perfectly.

Use the same techniques described in
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/TblsFldsFms/ControlPgBrksInTables.htm. In this
case, format the entire table (every row) as "Keep with next." It will be
forced into the next column without requiring a column break.

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Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Glad I could help.

 

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

Right you are. I could have sworn that in earlier versions the ¶ button hid
the display of hidden text as well.

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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

The Show/Hide ¶ button does hide Hidden text unless "Hidden text" is
explicitly checked in the View Options. But Stefan was referring to the
separate setting under Print Options, which is less likely to be checked
(and of course would affect only printing, not display).

 

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

Hi Suzanne,

But, it does not hide hidden text if it is set to be displayed under Pizza
Button>Word Options>Display. Of course that dialog does say "Always show
these formatting marks on the screen" and if the ¶ is checked there, the ¶
in the Paragraph chunk of the Home tab of the Ribbon does not toggle the end
of paragraph marks on and off.

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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

That is exactly what I said:

The Options setting you describe in Word 2007 is equivalent to the one in
Tools | Options | View in previous versions.

 

[Doug Robbins - Word MVP]

I know that is what you said. The point of my message was that the ¶ button
has become a bit redundant as it has no effect if the display of the ¶ is
turned on in Word Options.

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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

But that has always been true, just not well understood.

 

[Stefan Blom]

Indeed, the ¶ button (or the Ctrl+Shift+8 shortcut) toggles the display only
of the items not explicitly checked in the options dialog box.

I wonder if Word 2007 actually adds to the confusion, since the Options
dialog box no longer separates print and display options (for example, the
options to print and display hidden text are both in the Popular category of
the dialog)...

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

If people pay any attention to the headings, then the "Printing options" are
pretty clearly separated from "Always show these formatting marks on screen"
(and they're in Display rather than Popular, though "Display" might be
misleading).

 

[Stefan Blom]

Clearly, I contributed to any confusion, by writing the wrong name for the
category. :-(

But my point was that the name of the category is not very helpful (in this
particular case, at least).

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

I agree about that. They could at least have called it Display/Print, but
there are so few Print Options there that I assume the rest are somewhere
else (haven't explored it thoroughly, as so far I'm just looking for the
things I need immediately).

 

[Stefan Blom]

More print options are found in the Advanced category. But, then again,
there are also more display options there...

I'd say that the Advanced category contains far too many options, most of
which are really no more "advanced" than, say, the options in the Display
category.

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Stefan Blom
Microsoft Word MVP


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[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Somewhere in these NGs, a user yesterday expressed surprise that a given
option would be considered "Advanced." I think most of us feel that way
about many of the options we regard as basic.