Question for the experts!

[Uncle Meat]

I'm still having major problems getting FP 2002 to upload files for more than
30 seconds before it just quits. Looking at the Publish log file you can see
where it doesn't even finish writing the last line, it's just cut off. It's
almost as if the log file itself has a size limitation? Once the log gets soo
many entries and can't be written too FP stops uploading.

Here's what I need to know. The "images" directory on my site holds all my
jpg files. 5000+ of them, all around 60-80KB in size. Only being able to
publish a few of these files at a time before FP craps out will take me
forever.

Is there some way I can FTP JUST the jpg files into the images directory
without screwing up the FP extentions or whatever? I've yet to connect to my
website via FTP since getting it restored/recreated and re-installed. It's
taken me 16 hours (30 seconds at a whack) just to upload 10 megs of data. I
could really reduce the total time it would take to get my page back up if I
could find a way to get all these jpg's back into the images directory
without having to resort to the FP publish command! Keep in mind my website
uses no databases, no forms, no counters, no nothing! It's just a bunch of
frames and simple slide show java scripts (FP 2002 created) and of course a
bunch a jpg's.

What are the ramifications of instructing FP to publish to
ftp://www.mywebpage.com vs. http://www.mywebpage.com?

U.M.

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

If you are using no functions or component that require the FP extensions, and you have no need to
every work directly on the live/remote site via FP, then have you web host completely remove the FP
extensions (that includes the hidden _vti folders). then just use a 3rd Party FTP application to
upload our site.

Make sure the you always make a back up of your site locally as you will not be able to easily
retrieve a copy from the live/remote server once the FP extensions are removed.

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[Ronx]

One option (one that I use), if your host supports subwebs, is to move your
images to another folder, and convert the folder to a subweb. Then FTP can
be used without endangering the main web.
Do this:
Create a folder (it can be in the images folder, if you wish)
place a file in it - any file.
Right click on the folder and choose "Convert to Web"
Open the subweb in FrontPage (double click it from the folder list) and
publish to your host, using the same name
http://example.com/subwebname/
Don't forget that name - or you will delete all your exisiting uploads.

Convert back to a folder, and move your images into the folder - this will
update all links in existing pages, unless the links are scripted. (Your
javascripts may break.)
Convert the folder back into a subweb.

You can use FTP within the subweb without any danger to the main web. Just
never open the subweb in FrontPage, in case the extensions there do get
corrupted.

 

[Uncle Meat]

Okay I'm a novice here so bare with me. If I use FP to create my web page and
I use an FTP client to publish the folders created by FP, will the links &
paths still be correct? I mean right now inside of FP when I'm viewing my
webpage if I click on a link to a pspecific picture FP knows to look in
C:\Documents and Settings\kilmerj\My Documents\My
Webs\kilmer-family\images\picture.jpg

What happens when I FTP the folder to my website? Won't it too want to look
for the jpegs on my local machine?

U.M.

 

[Uncle Meat]

I might just end up doing this in the end!

If I had known that FP was going to be such a pain I would have done
everything in notepad!

I still think that the root of ALL my problems is a corrupted file within FP
itself! Not one of the base files created when FP is installed, but the files
FP creates itself to track the work you do on your webpage. Even though I've
used FPCleaner and done EVERTHING everyone has suggested I still can't upload
more than 30 seconds worth of data before FP just quits.

U.M.

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

As long as you always work in a web via FP, and everything has been imported into the current open
web, then the links and paths should be correct when you upload the content to the live/remote site.
However I would suggest publish to another folder on your HD first, then deleting all of the _vti
folders from this location, then use a 3rd Party FTP application to upload the remain content to the
live/remote server.

Now, the best option is to follow Ronx suggestion of using a subweb, if allowed by your web host.

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==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

Have you tried just Publishing a smaller "test" web ?




|I might just end up doing this in the end!
|
| If I had known that FP was going to be such a pain I would have done
| everything in notepad!
|
| I still think that the root of ALL my problems is a corrupted file within
FP
| itself! Not one of the base files created when FP is installed, but the
files
| FP creates itself to track the work you do on your webpage. Even though
I've
| used FPCleaner and done EVERTHING everyone has suggested I still can't
upload
| more than 30 seconds worth of data before FP just quits.
|
| U.M.
|
| "Ronx" wrote:
|
| > One option (one that I use), if your host supports subwebs, is to move
your
| > images to another folder, and convert the folder to a subweb. Then FTP
can
| > be used without endangering the main web.
| > Do this:
| > Create a folder (it can be in the images folder, if you wish)
| > place a file in it - any file.
| > Right click on the folder and choose "Convert to Web"
| > Open the subweb in FrontPage (double click it from the folder list) and
| > publish to your host, using the same name
| > http://example.com/subwebname/
| > Don't forget that name - or you will delete all your exisiting uploads.
| >
| > Convert back to a folder, and move your images into the folder - this
will
| > update all links in existing pages, unless the links are scripted.
(Your
| > javascripts may break.)
| > Convert the folder back into a subweb.
| >
| > You can use FTP within the subweb without any danger to the main web.
Just
| > never open the subweb in FrontPage, in case the extensions there do get
| > corrupted.
| > --
| > Ron Symonds - Microsoft MVP (FrontPage)
| > Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
| > FrontPage Support: http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| >
| >
| > | > > I'm still having major problems getting FP 2002 to upload files for
more
| > than
| > > 30 seconds before it just quits. Looking at the Publish log file you
can
| > see
| > > where it doesn't even finish writing the last line, it's just cut off.
| > It's
| > > almost as if the log file itself has a size limitation? Once the log
gets
| > soo
| > > many entries and can't be written too FP stops uploading.
| > >
| > > Here's what I need to know. The "images" directory on my site holds
all my
| > > jpg files. 5000+ of them, all around 60-80KB in size. Only being able
to
| > > publish a few of these files at a time before FP craps out will take
me
| > > forever.
| > >
| > > Is there some way I can FTP JUST the jpg files into the images
directory
| > > without screwing up the FP extentions or whatever? I've yet to connect
to
| > my
| > > website via FTP since getting it restored/recreated and re-installed.
It's
| > > taken me 16 hours (30 seconds at a whack) just to upload 10 megs of
data.
| > I
| > > could really reduce the total time it would take to get my page back
up if
| > I
| > > could find a way to get all these jpg's back into the images directory
| > > without having to resort to the FP publish command! Keep in mind my
| > website
| > > uses no databases, no forms, no counters, no nothing! It's just a
bunch of
| > > frames and simple slide show java scripts (FP 2002 created) and of
course
| > a
| > > bunch a jpg's.
| > >
| > > What are the ramifications of instructing FP to publish to
| > > ftp://www.mywebpage.com vs. http://www.mywebpage.com?
| > >
| > > U.M.
| >
| >
| >