Quick Print and Default Paper Size in 2004

[jeremym]

After changing the default paper size via the "Format" -> "Document"
menu (Under the "Page Setup" button), it prints normally when using
Command-P, and from the "File" -> "Print" menu, but not from the print
toolbar icon. Tried reinstalling...no luck.

Any ideas?

-jeremy

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Alternative approach:

Try opening up the Normal template and changing the paper size for it, which
should change the default in Word itself, rather than as an overlay with the
printer settings. Assuming you really do want this to be the true default
paper size. All regular new documents are based on the Normal template
unless you specify otherwise.

Normal should be in ~/documents/ms user data, and you will need to trick
Word into realizing there's a change to be saved in Normal by doing
something like space, backspace.

By the way, Format | Document, Page Setup.... and File | Page Setup get you
to exactly the same dialog.

I don't think the Default button in Format | Document applies to Page Setup
settings, so I don't *think* you did what you think you did. I think File |
Print is just good at remembering settings, and cmd-p is the same thing as
File | Print. But I'm not totally sure about all that.

Also by the way--reinstalling (especially without removing first) rarely
fixes anything in MacWord, and even less so in Word 2004. Bookmark this link
for the standard troubleshooting tips, for future reference.
http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/TroubleshootingIndex.htm
(hit refresh a few times in Safari, or use a different browser)

 

[jeremym]

Already tried all that. No dice.

Thanks,
jeremy

Alternative approach:

Try opening up the Normal template and changing the paper size for it, which
should change the default in Word itself, rather than as an overlay with the
printer settings. Assuming you really do want this to be the true default
paper size. All regular new documents are based on the Normal template
unless you specify otherwise.

Normal should be in ~/documents/ms user data, and you will need to trick
Word into realizing there's a change to be saved in Normal by doing
something like space, backspace.

By the way, Format | Document, Page Setup.... and File | Page Setup get you
to exactly the same dialog.

I don't think the Default button in Format | Document applies to Page Setup
settings, so I don't *think* you did what you think you did. I think File |
Print is just good at remembering settings, and cmd-p is the same thing as
File | Print. But I'm not totally sure about all that.

Also by the way--reinstalling (especially without removing first) rarely
fixes anything in MacWord, and even less so in Word 2004. Bookmark this link
for the standard troubleshooting tips, for future reference.
http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/TroubleshootingIndex.htm
(hit refresh a few times in Safari, or use a different browser)




--
Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word
Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/
MacWord Tips: <http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/>
What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ:

 

[jeremym]

Already tried all that. No dice.

Thanks,
jeremy

Alternative approach:

Try opening up the Normal template and changing the paper size for it, which
should change the default in Word itself, rather than as an overlay with the
printer settings. Assuming you really do want this to be the true default
paper size. All regular new documents are based on the Normal template
unless you specify otherwise.

Normal should be in ~/documents/ms user data, and you will need to trick
Word into realizing there's a change to be saved in Normal by doing
something like space, backspace.

By the way, Format | Document, Page Setup.... and File | Page Setup get you
to exactly the same dialog.

I don't think the Default button in Format | Document applies to Page Setup
settings, so I don't *think* you did what you think you did. I think File |
Print is just good at remembering settings, and cmd-p is the same thing as
File | Print. But I'm not totally sure about all that.

Also by the way--reinstalling (especially without removing first) rarely
fixes anything in MacWord, and even less so in Word 2004. Bookmark this link
for the standard troubleshooting tips, for future reference.
http://word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/TroubleshootingIndex.htm
(hit refresh a few times in Safari, or use a different browser)




--
Daiya Mitchell, MVP Mac/Word
Word FAQ: http://www.word.mvps.org/
MacWord Tips: <http://www.word.mvps.org/MacWordNew/>
What's an MVP? A volunteer! Read the FAQ:

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Changing Normal will only affect documents created after you make that
change. You should change it anyhow, though, as that's the best way to set
the default paper size.

For old documents--the quick print button is supposed to print using current
defaults. I think actually you misdiagnosed the problem, though, which I
should have realized earlier.

Quick print doesn't really have anything to do with paper size. Quick print
uses the existing "how to print" settings, and paper size is a File | Page
Setup setting that is stored in the document, not a "how to print" setting,
which is not stored in the document. So the problem can't be that quick
print isn't using the correct paper size.

I'm finding, when I use quick print, that it shrinks the entire page. In
fact, it looks a lot like the existing "prints as if there were tracked
changes" bug, with the text squeezed to the left and top. And, just as with
that bug, when I unchecked Print "hidden text" in the Preferences, it
printed fine, in both my regular size doc and my doc from a different paper
size template.

What are you finding? What paper size are you trying to use anyhow? Do you
have hidden text set to either View or Print?

Daiya

 

[Clive Huggan]

On 30/7/05 1:47 AM, in article BF0F9DAC.3D072%[email protected],

I'm finding, when I use quick print, that it shrinks the entire page. In
fact, it looks a lot like the existing "prints as if there were tracked
changes" bug, with the text squeezed to the left and top. And, just as with
that bug, when I unchecked Print "hidden text" in the Preferences, it
printed fine, in both my regular size doc and my doc from a different paper
size template.

Daiya,

Does unchecking "Print hidden text" fix the "shrinking" problem when
printing tracked changes, or just in the "as if there were tracked changes"
context?

Clive
=====

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Daiya,

Does unchecking "Print hidden text" fix the "shrinking" problem when
printing tracked changes, or just in the "as if there were tracked changes"
context?

I didn't retest--my current doc had no changes/comments, but I think both
hidden text settings were flagged as possibly relevant in either case. Not
necessarily a sure fix, I apparently said in an earlier post.

Turns out we knew all about the quick print problem and I just forgot,
perhaps because it was a "print toolbar icon" problem earlier. And that's
what I get for not asking what a poster means by "doesn't print normally."

<http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.word/browse_frm/
thread/40af386e57315246/f1cf0c9851141908>

Daiya