Rational Unified Process and Project Server

[Dominic Moss]

Does anyone have any experience of trying to take information generated by
RUP and transposing it into a Microsoft Project plan?

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[Gary L. Chefetz \(MVP\)]

Dominic:

What type of information are you trying to port? Which Rational software
product are you trying to integrate? RUP is a methodology created to
promote, and supported by, a suite of software tools.

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Gary L. Chefetz, MVP
"We wrote the book on Project Server
http://www.msprojectexperts.com

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[Dominic Moss]

Gary,

I will try and find out the exact Rational software being used - I was given
a brief view of it last week and it has like a folder structure and employs
user cases, scenarios, iterations etc - it struck me as being a very
complicated way to illustrate what is involved in a development project but
I am not a developer.

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[Dominic Moss]

I have found out the tools being used by my contact.

RequistePro (Requirements)

XDE (Modeller)

I hope this makes sense and look forward to hearing of any compatible
products to convert Rational Outputs to Microsoft Project Plans.
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[James]

Hi Dominic,

Rational Requsite Pro and Microsoft Project are tools designed to address
different needs. One is requirements definition, the other i sproject
scheduling. It is unlikely that there will be a direct match between the
requirements defined in Requiste Pro and the activities in Microsoft
Project. If your contact expects there to be a match its highly likely that
they aren't using the products in the correct way or their expectations are
misplaced.

More usually a task in a plan would be "Requirementd definition" and this
would link in some way to the document created by Requisite Pro, either as a
URL Hyperlink or (in EPM) as a link in the Sharepoint Workspace.

The only product I have ever seen and come across that directly converts
(bi-drectionally) between Requirements definition and Project is a product
called Catalyze Pro by SteelTrace. This uses MS Word to create the document,
utlises workflow and is bi-directional between the plan and requirements
doc. But, IMHO, this has limited application because most companies simply
don't work this way.

Hope this helps.

Regards

James

 

[Gary L. Chefetz \(MVP\)]

Dominic:

As James aptly stated, there's very little crossover in data between
Requisite Pro and Project, however I could see integration between RP's
database and the deliverables outlined in the project plan much in the same
way RP integrates with Word to track requirements changes and their
downstream affects. Typically, I'd say the client needs to learn to use EPM
out-of-the-box first, before diving into this level of integration.

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Gary L. Chefetz, MVP
"We wrote the book on Project Server
http://www.msprojectexperts.com

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[Dominic Moss]

James & Gary,

Thanks for taking the time to address my query here and on Portfolio
Modelling - I will pass on your advice to my contact.

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[jmhester]

Dominic,
If you are using the Rational Tool Suite from IBM (formally ROSE), you can
integrate many things. Rapt is the project repository and we mapped it into
Project Server 2003. They are just Oracle tables so you can pull things from
them and move it to Project Server pretty easily. We automated it so that
when you created a project in RapT, it would open project, create a project
schedule based on an enterprise template, and publish it. Just a bunch of
macro code.
If you can define exactly what tool you want to intergrate, it's pretty easy.