Redirect sends to cc recipients again. Bug?

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Geoff B

Since I've had trouble with IMAP, I use POP with a rule, like the one
suggested in the MVP FAQ at
http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq_topic/cc_bcc_fw.html (Question 4, Option
2), to redirect outgoing mail to an email account that I only open/receive
on my other computer. (On that computer, I have a rule that anything
received from that account gets moved to Sent Items.)

Now, after doing this for months, I was terribly upset and embarrassed to
realize that Redirect re-sends the email to anyone who was a CC on the
original email, so they get the same mail twice, the second time with my
"secret" account as the "To" address. I could find no way to strip CC
recipients before redirecting using a rule, which would address this bug.

Help! The other options listed on the MVP FAQ are not possible or too
unwieldy for me.

I'm using Entourage 2004 11.3.6, OS X 10.4.10.
 
D

Diane Ross

Since I've had trouble with IMAP, I use POP with a rule, like the one
suggested in the MVP FAQ at
http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq_topic/cc_bcc_fw.html (Question 4, Option
2), to redirect outgoing mail to an email account that I only open/receive
on my other computer. (On that computer, I have a rule that anything
received from that account gets moved to Sent Items.)

Let me make sure I understand what you want to do.

Problem. Create an outgoing message and have a copy of that sent to another
email address.

Solution. Try using this script instead of redirecting. It will create a
new message with your email address as a Bcc. You just have to remember to
use it to create a new message.

tell application "Microsoft Entourage"
set newMessage to make new outgoing message with properties {BCC
recipients:"(e-mail address removed)"}
open newMessage
end tell

Copy and paste this into the Script Editor. Next, edit the script. Replace
(e-mail address removed) with your email address. Assign a shortcut for easy
use.

Here's a slightly different version of the script. This one will address the
message to a particular person. This is useful if you send a lot of messages
to this person.

tell application "Microsoft Entourage"
set newMessage to make new outgoing message with properties {to
recipients:"(e-mail address removed)", BCC recipients:"(e-mail address removed)"}
open newMessage
end tell

How-to add a shortcut to a script:

Now, after doing this for months, I was terribly upset and embarrassed to
realize that Redirect re-sends the email to anyone who was a CC on the
original email, so they get the same mail twice, the second time with my
"secret" account as the "To" address. I could find no way to strip CC
recipients before redirecting using a rule, which would address this bug.

Help! The other options listed on the MVP FAQ are not possible or too
unwieldy for me.

Do you have difficulty copy/pasting scripts? I can post the scripts on the
Entourage Help Page for download if that would help.
 
G

Geoff B

Thanks for the suggestion. But, I didn't think this would work for me, most
importantly because it seems to me that it won't work for replies or
forwards, right? And how about for emails created through a link on a web
page or from within another application?

Also, besides getting around this bug with a script, should the FAQ be
edited and the bug somehow reported (and addressed)? (Anyone else that's
followed the suggestion in that FAQ has also been sending multiple emails to
any CC recipients.)

In the absence of a bug fix, though, I will set up your script, create a
keyboard shortcut to use it, and try to remember to add myself as bcc to any
replies or forwards that I send.
 
D

Diane Ross

Thanks for the suggestion. But, I didn't think this would work for me, most
importantly because it seems to me that it won't work for replies or
forwards, right?

It won't work for Replies, but you can Bcc replies using this script:

Reply with BCC (Entourage) 1.0
And how about for emails created through a link on a web
page or from within another application?

There is no way for Entourage to do that as the messages are not in
Entourage to act on. Really, your best and easiest option is to use an IMAP
account. For emails that you send from other applications and the web, use a
Gmail account that can be set to automatically forward them to another email
address.
Also, besides getting around this bug with a script, should the FAQ be
edited and the bug somehow reported (and addressed)? (Anyone else that's
followed the suggestion in that FAQ has also been sending multiple emails to
any CC recipients.)

I'll look into the problems with the redirect and update the FAQ.
 

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