RefWorks (Write-n-Cite) will not work with Word 2008?

[TXCiclista]

I use RefWorks (an online reference database) and no matter what I do, I cannot get it's "Write-n-Cite" application to add citations to Word 2008. Is there anything I might check to be sure things are working? Is MS possibly trying to push out other reference managers by incorporating their amateur citation manager and breaking functionality? As far as I know, Word 2004 has no issues.

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

How does RefWorks work?

EndNote and company, which work via a plug-in, are all broken because
the plug-in that provided a toolbar and auto-formatted the citations
depended on VBA, which is gone in Office 2008. The workaround there is
to just drag and drop/copy and paste the raw citations directly from an
EndNote library into a Word doc, and then either return to Word 2004 or
use the "Scan RTF" approach to get the citations formatted. Actually,
wait--Bookends, which is mac-only and very nimble, I believe already has
an AppleScript-based plug-in for Word 2008 operating.

If "Write-n-Cite" is a plug-in you install, it's probably not going to
work. I'd assume RefWorks would have a statement on MacOffice 2008
compatibility up somewhere.

Incidentally, the citation manager in Word is not especially planned to
kill the EndNote, etc market, or not anytime soon--the WinWord people
know it isn't as powerful and basically said on a blog somewhere that
this feature is aimed at students, not academics, and that they are
leaving it up to third-parties to increase the power.

 

[TXCiclista]

I imagine you're "spot on" with regards to VBA. I had forgotten that was gone with '08. I have sent an e-mail to RefWorks to see what's up on their end. I didn't see a statement regarding 2008 though that's not to say it's not there. The program is quite new to me...

And good point about "killing Endnote" and it's a good thing, because as you pointed out, the built-in citation manager certainly won't succeed in its current form

 

[troutbird]

I use RefWorks (an online reference database) and no matter what I do, I cannot get it's "Write-n-Cite" application to add citations to Word 2008. Is there anything I might check to be sure things are working? Is MS possibly trying to push out other reference managers by incorporating their amateur citation manager and breaking functionality? As far as I know, Word 2004 has no issues.

Did you or anone ever find an answer to this? I'm stuck in the same
black hole.

 

[TXCiclista]

The answer is right above your comment in the "EDIT" to my second post

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Troutbird, see here for the Edit--looks like you are in google groups:
http://www.officeformac.com/ProductForums/Word/1147

TXCiclista--edits only show up in the Mactopia forums. No one using a
newsreader or google groups ever saw your edit, including me. Thanks
very much for offering the update--but I'd advise avoiding the Edit
feature in future.

Thanks,
Daiya

 

[TXCiclista]

Ohhhhh. My fault. I was trying not to double-post. I'll keep that in mind for future reference. Thanks for pointing that out!

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

No, thank you! Because I had no idea that capability was there until you
mentioned it on this thread, and it is exceedingly good that I have now
become aware of it, as the MVPs will try to get it shut down.

See here if you are wondering what an MVP is:
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

 

[TXCiclista]

If you don't mind my asking, why get it shut down? is it just because of the issue with those reading from some place other than Mactopia? I tend to be one who likes to go back and edit if I catch typos, etc

 

[Daiya Mitchell]

Yeah, because of the issue with those reading from elsewhere. This is
just one front-end portal to a huge server--the same groups can be
accessed through google, plus several other sites that suck the content.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.mac.office.word/topics

I'm reading from a newsreader that connects directly to the server
(parallel to using Entourage instead of webmail), as are many of the
most frequent, knowledgeable posters--editing a question means the
people who can likely help won't see the edited version, for instance.
You posted something important that a lot of people could not see.

Fixing typos isn't worth the risk of an archive that can't be trusted.
It's not viable in the long-term to allow Edits, in my opinion. We'll
see if the Mactopia people listen.