Resetting to default font when keyboard layout is changed

[Milan]

In Office applications, when I am using other than default font and
then switch the keyboards during typing (e.g. from English to Slovak),
the font resets itself back to default. The same happens sometimes when
I use the Undo function.

Is there any way to prevent this?

Thank you!

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Hi Milan,

I don't know much about language issues but have you tried changing the
default font in your Normal template (assuming that you're not using a
custom template)? There are several ways to do so but try this one: Open
up the Normal template. (You didn't state your version of Word so I'm
assuming Word 2004, in which case Normal is in Home/Documents/Microsoft User
Data.)

Change the font in Normal to whatever you want. Save and close Normal. Now
every *new* document you open should use your specified default font. If
changing keyboards changes that, then it's an issue I can't help with. Stay
tuned though; someone else will probably have a solution.

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[Milan]

Hi Beth,

thank you for your reply and hint for a workaround. Unfortunately, it
didn't work. I dwelled deeper into the problem and the finding is, that
you factually cannot use any other type of the font than Times New
Roman with my keyboard layout. Even when I changed the default font in
the Normal template into something else, every time I change the
keyboard layout from U.S. to Slovak the selected font changes itself
into Times New Roman. No matter what the default font of the template
is and no matter what font has been currently selected and/or used.

Milan

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Sorry I couldn't help, Milan. Sounds like you'll have to live with this
annoyance. At least it's a small one .

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[Milan]

OMG, Beth, now I had a good laugh. Being restricted to a type in with a
SINGLE font in a $499 dolar package - is that what Microsoft calls a
small annoyance?

So, lets get real. I truly thank you for your input and I somewhat
expected that there is no workaround at this moment. However, as a MVP
you surely know the best way how to report it to Microsoft team. Could
you please help me with this?

Thanks!

 

[CyberTaz]

I'm just guessing at something here, but are you sure you are using fonts
that contain the necessary characters for the language you wish to use? Not
all characters are available in every font - in fact most are quite limited.
Also, you aren't restricted to using the fonts that ship with office. There
are fonts included with the OS as well as fonts that come with many other
programs.

Try a more robust font like Batang or Gulim just to see if that makes a
difference.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Beth Rosengard]

Sorry, Milan. I apparently misunderstood the situation. I didn't realize
you were restricted to the one font. I thought that changing keyboards just
changed the default so you then had to manually change to another font each
time. I guess it's not that simple . And, no, if it means you can only
use one font, then I certainly wouldn't call it a small annoyance.

Hopefully, Bob's suggestions will be of some help.

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[Michel Bintener]

Hmm, I sent a reply last night, but it doesn't look like it's going to show
up anytime soon, so I'll repost it:

Hi Milan,

I just discovered this thread, and reading about font changes related to the
Slovak keyboard layout rang a bell. I searched the Google archives, and what
you are experiencing is indeed a known problem with Central European scripts
in Mac Word. Paul Berkowitz wrote an interesting explanation, you might want
to read that to understand what exactly is happening. For now, I'm afraid
Times New Roman will have to do for you.

<http://tinyurl.com/qn9c7>

(I used TinyURL to create a, well, tiny URL, as Google newsgroup URLs tend to
be extremely long and break in many newsreaders).

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Michel Bintener
Microsoft MVP
Office:Mac (Entourage & Word)

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[Milan]

I've tried almost everything. It's exactly as Michel Bintener pointed
http://tinyurl.com/qn9c7 there is a portion of Apple fonts that do
support unicode, but Word just seems it doesn't want to play the game.
And if the documents are to be handed to a Windows world, then we
should start to deeply admire Times New Roman and acknowledge that it
is the only true font on the planet

Milan

 

[Milan]

Hi Michel,

Thank you. The link was very informative. So for the time being, Times
New Roman is the only way to go and Microsft and Apple tend to be
blaming each other for this. The only question remains: why is this
hapenning in 2006? And for how long this will continue? I am glad that
MS solved its font issues back in 1998. Steve Jobs says that Windows
just copy the Mac and that it is him and his team who brought
typography into the computers. I truly think it is the time for the Mac
to copy Windows a little bit too.

Milan

 

[tadasklimas]

On a related matter ... I have Office Mac 2004 (student and teacher
ed.). I can't seem to be able to change keyboards. I wish to change to
the Lithuanian keyboard, which I have enabled in the International
preferences section. How does one enable keyboards?

 

[Elliott Roper]

On a related matter ... I have Office Mac 2004 (student and teacher
ed.). I can't seem to be able to change keyboards. I wish to change to
the Lithuanian keyboard, which I have enabled in the International
preferences section. How does one enable keyboards?

System Preferences » International » Input menu. Then check "Show input
menu in menu bar"
A flag icon appears on the right of your main menu bar.
You can choose from there.
Also, you might find it convenient to assign keyboard shortcuts in the
same preference pane.
I use it to switch between UK, US and Australian so I can get to emacs
keys that hide behind the £ sign in UK keyboard.

The flag also works as a convenient menu for reaching the character
palette and the keyboard viewer, which are a great help when dealing
with obscure characters.