Resyncing? OneNote to new OS

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Wickiup

Win XP and OneNote 2007 on two machines.

I am using a desktop as main computer and on which all my notebooks have
been created.
Everything synced fine between that and my laptop.

Now the desktop OS has went belly up and must be reloaded losing all
programs, files, etc..
OneNote will of course have to be reloaded but it will be a clean install
with no way to salvage
the old notebooks.

Will OneNote sync the Notebooks and files on the laptop back to the desk top
with the new
system and OneNote reloaded?

Thank you

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Jim Curts
 
E

Erik Sojka

It won't be automatic, but if copies of the Notebooks were synced to the
laptop, the data is not lost and you should be able to recreate the sybc
between the two machines.
 
B

Bernd

Dear Erik: How !?

1. Save As
2. Close
3. Reopen ???

Bernd

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W

Wickiup

My next question also is How??

The program and notebooks are intact and in use on the laptop.
It seems I originally had to physically move them via the Shared folder to
get them to the laptop.

Was hoping someone had done this.

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Jim Curts
 
B

Bernd

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
My next question also is How??

The program and notebooks are intact and in use on the laptop.
It seems I originally had to physically move them via the Shared folder to
get them to the laptop.

Was hoping someone had done this.

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Jim Curts

You said you had created your notebooks on the desktop and opened them
on the laptop too. So ON synched them after changes, as you described.
The problem you described is that you had "originals" on the desktop,
which you lost, and "copies" on the laptop.
If I have described your configuration correctly then your problem is to
recreate the originals.
This cannot be done by copying your existing "copies" on the laptop back
to the desktop because these copies are part of one special file on the
laptop, the so called ON-cache. If you had made changes in your
notebooks after the crash these are only in the cache by now (not
synched). What I suggested before(and asked Erik for confirmation) is:

1. use the Save As command to a suited place (the "old" or a new path,
to be on the safe side) on the desktop for all notebooks which got lost.
So you will create new "originals", containing the newest changes on the
laptop.

2. Now you don't need the actual cache anymore because you saved all
changes to "new" notebooks.

3. Because I think ON will still believe that your lost originals
exist but I am not sure that ON will treat the newly created originals
as "his" originals, I suggested to now close the notebooks on the laptop
to stop the synch with the "old". This will kill the cache and the
connection to the "old" originals. DON'T close the notebooks on the
laptop BEFORE the "Save As", this would destroy your remaining copies in
the cache.

Hope that helps.

Bernd

4. Now (Re-) open the notebooks from your laptop. Now the old
configuration is back
 
W

Wickiup

Will certainly give it a try.

As an alternative if all else fails can I just continue using the Notebooks
on the laptop
and let it all sync to the desktop when I get it back in service? I do not
really care
which unit has the originals or cache as long as they continue to sync.

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Jim Curts
 
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Rainald Taesler

Wickiup said:
Will certainly give it a try.

As an alternative if all else fails can I just continue using the
Notebooks on the laptop and let it all sync to the desktop when
I get it back in service?
I do not really care which unit has the originals or cache as
long as they continue to sync.

Seriously:
Didn't you read Bernd's explanations??
Please read again below!

It makes a whole lot of a difference whether you had "moved"/copied the
notebook files from the desktop PC to the Laptop!!

What did you *really* do?

Rainald
 
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Rainald Taesler

Wickiup said:
My next question also is How??

The program and notebooks are intact and in use on the laptop.
It seems I originally had to physically move them via the Shared
folder to get them to the laptop.

Really?
If you had been really using the notebook-files on the Laptop after
having "physically" MOVED them to there you would have a mist serious
mistake which would have killed any synching.
Was hoping someone had done this.

*NO*
I would have to object *SERIOUSLY* should the scenario you are showing
here be true.

Pls be so kind as to check which *.One files are existing on your
Laptop.

Rainald
 
W

Wickiup

These notebooks were originally transferred to the laptop via the Shared
folder.
I merely opened each one in OneNote right from the Shared folder and upon
closing OneNote they became a part of it and were then listed in the OneNote
page and continue to be so.
They all continue to open and function perfectly and did sync perfectly when
the desktop was running.
However, I can not find them anywhere on the laptop except the ones that
were loaded upon OneNote install.

The .one files are found only under the backup folder where I find all of
them with a .one file for each section file.

I have read Bernds words yet am not sure just how to save the NoteBooks in
order to utilize them on the desktop.
The "save as" options to save a NoteBook indicate they are saved as a
..Onepkg file.
Does this type of file make them available to the desktop?

I find in "properties" under each of the notebooks "transferred" from the
desktop their original address on the desktop.
Perhaps I should just wait until I get the desktop back, load OneNote,
determine the new address of notebooks then change the address of each on
the laptop and let them sync...... ??

The useable results of "save as" continues to be unclear to me.

I certainly appreciate for all of your generous help and regret I am too
soon old and too late smart.

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Jim Curts
 
B

Bernd

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
These notebooks were originally transferred to the laptop via the Shared
folder.

"transferred" is a little bit misleading, what you did was (in your own
words):
I merely opened each one in OneNote right from the Shared folder and upon
closing OneNote they became a part of it and were then listed in the OneNote
page and continue to be so.

Behind the curtains OneNote made a real copy to his cache, as I
described before. That's the reason why you don't find your *.one files
on the laptop, except your backup files. I didn't mention the backup
files because I doubt, they are up to date.
They all continue to open and function perfectly and did sync perfectly when
the desktop was running.

That's the way OneNote works.
However, I can not find them anywhere on the laptop except the ones that
were loaded upon OneNote install.

see above
The .one files are found only under the backup folder where I find all of
them with a .one file for each section file.

see above
I have read Bernds words yet am not sure just how to save the NoteBooks in
order to utilize them on the desktop.
The "save as" options to save a NoteBook indicate they are saved as a
.Onepkg file.
Does this type of file make them available to the desktop?

Not directly ;-) because they need further treatment ... (see down under)


I find in "properties" under each of the notebooks "transferred" from the
desktop their original address on the desktop.

That confirms what I said about your configuration.
Perhaps I should just wait until I get the desktop back, load OneNote,
determine the new address of notebooks then change the address of each on
the laptop and let them sync...... ??

I personally doubt, that it works ...
The useable results of "save as" continues to be unclear to me.

You could have "saved as" all your sections one for one.

To repeat myself: The name of the Notebook is only the name of a Windows
folder which contains the notebook sections in the form of corresponding
*.one files. So, if you have saved ALL sections of a notebook you have
saved the notebook.

BUT I have TESTED a simpler way for you:

Right click the notebook label(s) and Save As your complete notebooks
one for one as a *.onepkg file. Now make NO further changes to your
notebooks or you must repeat the save as.

After the restored desktop is at hand and the reinstallation of OneNote
is complete on it move your *.onepkg-files from your laptop to a
temporary place on the desktop using its Shared Folder.

Now open (one for one) the *.onepkg files on the desktop (!) by
doubleclick. Now OneNote will ask you where to place the notebook, use
the old place. Answer another question, that you will use this notebook
from other computers. OneNote then extracts the sections and creates the
*.one files. Now you have back your "originals" at the old place.

Now close all your restored notebooks on the laptop, for safety.

Now reopen the notebooks on the desktop using the shared folder as you
did that for the first time.

As a last step delete the *.onepkg files.

Bernd
 
W

Wickiup

Thank you fellows very much.
Things are not always so clearly cut for us who only occaisionally must
solve such issues.
Misuse of basic terminology is often the stumbling block with us.

Again, Thanks for all your time and effort

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Jim Curts
 
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Rainald Taesler

I see that Bernd's explanations did show the way.

You had done things the right way!

Good luck with restoring things on the new desktop.

Rainald
 
W

Wickiup

Thanks Rainald, sometimes things just work out for no apparent reason. ;-)

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Jim Curts
 
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Rainald Taesler

Wickiup said:
Thanks Rainald, sometimes things just work out for no apparent
reason. ;-)

OR (as we saw quite some stuff from Woodstock these days):
<play sound>
"... with a little help from my friends ..."
</play sound>
<gbg>

Rainald

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