Retraction

[James A. Fortune]

In:

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.access/msg/a9f226e2a28bfb24

I said:

BTW, aislebyaisle.com was registered with one of the buried contact
addresses in Malibu, CA.


My apologies to Mr. B for reporting this information. I didn't read
carefully the terms under which I obtained that information:

"The data contained in GoDaddy.com, Inc.'s WHOIS database, while
believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is" with no
guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This information is
provided for the sole purpose of assisting you in obtaining information
about domain name registration records.

Any use of this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden
without the prior written permission of GoDaddy.com, Inc. By submitting
an inquiry, you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of
warranty. In particular, you agree not to use this data to allow,
enable, or otherwise make possible, dissemination or collection of this
data, in part or in its entirety, for any purpose, such as the
transmission of unsolicited advertising and solicitations of any kind,
including spam. You further agree not to use this data to enable high
volume, automated or robotic electronic processes designed to collect or
compile this data for any purpose, including mining this data for your
own personal or commercial purposes."

I thank the person who complained to GoDaddy.com about this so that I
was made aware of these terms. I'll be more careful about this in the
future by obtaining the information from a source without such
restrictions or by obtaining written permission to cite the information.

Godaddy.com did not prevent me from obtaining new information about
other sites, perhaps because I have at least six hosted domains with
them, but did mention that there was a violation of their policy.

Please disregard the information posted about aislebyaisle.com from the
WHOIS database.

James A. Fortune
(e-mail address removed)

 

['69 Camaro]

Hi, James.

I said:

BTW, aislebyaisle.com was registered with one of the buried contact
addresses in Malibu, CA.

I notice that information has now been buried even deeper, as in "it's not
even in the listing." Perhaps someone doesn't want that information to be
revealed where Internet search engines can easily find it?

I thank the person who complained to GoDaddy.com about this so that I was
made aware of these terms.

Your statement leaves the reader to speculate that the only person who had a
problem with your publicly revealing the information in the newsgroups is,
in fact, the person who eventually complained to GoDaddy.com. But I have to
point out another possibility, because it's so easy to spoof E-mail
addresses these days. Are you positive that the GoDaddy.com E-mail address
you received the message informing you that you have violated GoDaddy.com's
policy is _really_ from GoDaddy.com and not from someone pretending that you
are in violation of their policy? (And after re-reading the terms, it
appears to me that you needed to reveal the physical address, E-mail
address, and/or phone number or cause any of these to be revealed in order
to be in violation of their policy, but I'm not an attorney so please don't
take any legal advice or legal speculations from me.)

Please disregard the information posted about aislebyaisle.com from the
WHOIS database.

Okay. I'll cross out "Malibu, CA" from the entry in my address book so no
one will ever know. Does Mr. Polk* have a closer address for me to write
down than his Dallas,Texas* location? Malibu isn't that far from me, but
Texas sure is. Or should I be looking at AppliTech, Inc.**, in Corona,
California?

* -- I didn't get Mr. Polk's name and location and AppliTech, Inc., from
GoDaddy.com or the WHOIS database. I got them from the following Web page
on Mr. Polk's Web site (including the AppliTech, Inc., copyright
notification): http://askdoctoraccess.com/MyPersonalPage.htm

** -- I got the AppliTech, Inc., location in Corona, California, from
Google.com's search engine, where I was led to the following Web pages:

1.) http://www.casst.com/ -- which includes this E-mail address: mrbpolk
at suddenlink dot net, which I'm guessing is Mr. Byron Polk; and

2.) http://www.ci.corona.ca.us/business/more.cfm?id=616545 -- which
includes AppliTech, Inc.'s address.

HTH.
Gunny


P.S. I don't really need to know any information about Mr. Byron Polk, Mr.
B., "Doctor Access," http://www.askdoctoraccess.com, or
http://www.aislebyaisle.com, but since Mr. Polk wants the information
cleared up and no associations between these two Web sites and him available
by search engine, I figured I should help you accommodate his special
requirements, seeing as he went to so much trouble to inconvenience you and
try to make you feel like a putz.

 

[James A. Fortune]

Hi, James.

'69 Camaro,

Thanks for offering new insights about this occurrence. I don't mind
people using what they learn on the newsgroups to make money with
Access. I don't even mind a little bit of "under the radar" advertising
by people with a history of contributions to the newsgroup. But the
blatant disrespect for people in several newsgroups shown by at least
one individual has caused me to go into an area I don't particularly
like -- speculation. This speculation has been based on facts and loose
correlations in an exasperated attempt to rein in the arrant hubris of
this individual. It is my earnest hope that this individual will
contribute to the newsgroups in a way that is appreciated by most. It
is in this context that I am responding to your observations. If the
individual doesn't change, then they can be the scapegoat of the
newsgroup, keeping us from getting wound up over smaller issues .

I notice that information has now been buried even deeper, as in "it's not
even in the listing." Perhaps someone doesn't want that information to be
revealed where Internet search engines can easily find it?

If my speculation is true, I think the university in British Columbia
where T. B. worked would like that fact to be unknown. I feel their
pain. I'll avoid mentioning their name again, if possible. They appear
to be a reputable school in all other respects. Google seems to keep
all the posts, but a keyword that produces a post today may not produce
the same post tomorrow. BTW, there's a word in one of the British
Columbia native american languages that means coyote. The fact that one
of the mainframes at that university was called malibu went beyond
bizarre. Since the other mainframe names I've seen from that university
don't follow any kind of scheme that includes malibu, I assume that
Malibu, CA was a pleasant vacation spot for someone with enough
influence to name a computer. Maybe Malibu is a favored vacation spot
for many from that university. The Malibu connection was only one of
many loose connections that suggested a university tie-in with that
individual. The sudden flush of honesty that would produce Mr. B. from
T. B. is almost ironic. A university would also be a good setting from
which to obtain hundreds, if not thousands, of small Access jobs. Those
jobs could include everything from helping people with homework
assignments to jobs for companies that contact the university. T. B.
also had enough responsibility at a department that students could be
subcontracted (not that I mind enterprise). There were other
miscellaneous connections as well -- none definitive. Finally, T. B.
used to post in CDMA long ago. A few of T. B.'s posts were so close to
those of the offensive individual in style and spirit that it borders on
being uncanny so even if I am mistaken about T. B. being the offensive
individual, I am not mistaken about the similarities. The information
once available from that university on T. B. made T. B.'s name less
likely to have been an alias.

Your statement leaves the reader to speculate that the only person who had a
problem with your publicly revealing the information in the newsgroups is,
in fact, the person who eventually complained to GoDaddy.com.

That's the most likely person to complain, but I'll try not to make that
assumption . Someone was certainly sensitive about the information.

But I have to

point out another possibility, because it's so easy to spoof E-mail
addresses these days. Are you positive that the GoDaddy.com E-mail address
you received the message informing you that you have violated GoDaddy.com's
policy is _really_ from GoDaddy.com and not from someone pretending that you
are in violation of their policy? (And after re-reading the terms, it
appears to me that you needed to reveal the physical address, E-mail
address, and/or phone number or cause any of these to be revealed in order
to be in violation of their policy, but I'm not an attorney so please don't
take any legal advice or legal speculations from me.)

It wasn't an email I received. When you search for a site name and
discover that it already exists, you are allowed to look at the site
registration, presumably so that you can buy it from the registrant or
find out when the registration expires and put yourself first in line in
the event it expires. After typing in the letters displayed (looks like
a way to prevent automatic harvesting of the information) I got the
message. The message didn't single me out specifically, only the
domain, but I got the message.

Okay. I'll cross out "Malibu, CA" from the entry in my address book so no
one will ever know. Does Mr. Polk* have a closer address for me to write
down than his Dallas,Texas* location? Malibu isn't that far from me, but
Texas sure is. Or should I be looking at AppliTech, Inc.**, in Corona,
California?

* -- I didn't get Mr. Polk's name and location and AppliTech, Inc., from
GoDaddy.com or the WHOIS database. I got them from the following Web page
on Mr. Polk's Web site (including the AppliTech, Inc., copyright
notification): http://askdoctoraccess.com/MyPersonalPage.htm

** -- I got the AppliTech, Inc., location in Corona, California, from
Google.com's search engine, where I was led to the following Web pages:

1.) http://www.casst.com/ -- which includes this E-mail address: mrbpolk
at suddenlink dot net, which I'm guessing is Mr. Byron Polk; and

2.) http://www.ci.corona.ca.us/business/more.cfm?id=616545 -- which
includes AppliTech, Inc.'s address.

HTH.
Gunny

My suspicion is that Mr. Byron Polk is either an alias or an accomplice
of T. B. and that T. B. worked at that university for at least nine
years, up until at least a year ago. It almost looks like: put your
name in the newsgroups until you get sufficient work, do the work until
it runs out, repeat.

I truly wish T. B. (or whatever name is being used) success, but without
all the inveigling.

P.S. I don't really need to know any information about Mr. Byron Polk, Mr.
B., "Doctor Access," http://www.askdoctoraccess.com, or
http://www.aislebyaisle.com, but since Mr. Polk wants the information
cleared up and no associations between these two Web sites and him available
by search engine, I figured I should help you accommodate his special
requirements, seeing as he went to so much trouble to inconvenience you and
try to make you feel like a putz.

Thanks, '69 Camaro for helping keep down the games played in this NG.

James A. Fortune
(e-mail address removed)