Return classic menus as an option in Office.

[RBL]

No reason that classic menus can't be supported in Office. How MSFT could
force a total UI rewrite on people who have mastered the old UI AND ACTUALLY
PREFER IT is beyond me. It's a simple matter to support the old menus AND
their shortcuts. The growing number of add-ins offered by third-parties is a
testament to market demand. The problem is, these are NOT a workable
solution. They still require extra clicks, extra work, and they don't support
shortcuts. Please, please, please ... add this capability to Office ASAP,
preferably in the first SP. Great software isn't rigid and dictatorial. It's
fluid and flexible, and doesn't alienate the base in the quest for easeier
novice access.

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[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

Not going to happen - and Office 14 will have even more functional ribbons. Stick with what you like.

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After furious head scratching, RBL asked:

| No reason that classic menus can't be supported in Office. How MSFT
| could force a total UI rewrite on people who have mastered the old UI
| AND ACTUALLY PREFER IT is beyond me. It's a simple matter to support
| the old menus AND their shortcuts. The growing number of add-ins
| offered by third-parties is a testament to market demand. The problem
| is, these are NOT a workable solution. They still require extra
| clicks, extra work, and they don't support shortcuts. Please, please,
| please ... add this capability to Office ASAP, preferably in the
| first SP. Great software isn't rigid and dictatorial. It's fluid and
| flexible, and doesn't alienate the base in the quest for easeier
| novice access.
|
| ----------------
| This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
| suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
| the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the
| button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft
| Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane.
|
| http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...2211804a16d8&dg=microsoft.public.officeupdate

 

[RBL]

Thanks Milly.

Meaning ... what? Don't upgrade? Use OpenOffice or WordPerfect?

G-d, I hope the Ribbon doesn't become the defacto UI in Windows. It's just
awful.

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

One man's meat is another man's poison. I have found my productivity has increased using the Ribbon, especially in little used applications like Excel for me.

As for alternatives, there are certainly many out there, some with feature sets more attractive or less attractive than Microsoft Office depending on your needs. I would certainly recommend Open Office for a stay at home mom who does nothing but email, web surfing and occasional documents. However, for the power user, I would recommend MSOffice. Having had no experience with Corel, I have a neutral stance there.

Like I said, use what you like, be it older versions of Office or alternative suites. It is your computing life, not mine.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, RBL asked:

| Thanks Milly.
|
| Meaning ... what? Don't upgrade? Use OpenOffice or WordPerfect?
|
| G-d, I hope the Ribbon doesn't become the defacto UI in Windows.
| It's just awful.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| Not going to happen - and Office 14 will have even more functional
|| ribbons. Stick with what you like.
||
|| --Â
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, RBL asked:
||
||| No reason that classic menus can't be supported in Office. How MSFT
||| could force a total UI rewrite on people who have mastered the old
||| UI AND ACTUALLY PREFER IT is beyond me. It's a simple matter to
||| support the old menus AND their shortcuts. The growing number of
||| add-ins offered by third-parties is a testament to market demand.
||| The problem is, these are NOT a workable solution. They still
||| require extra clicks, extra work, and they don't support shortcuts.
||| Please, please, please ... add this capability to Office ASAP,
||| preferably in the first SP. Great software isn't rigid and
||| dictatorial. It's fluid and flexible, and doesn't alienate the base
||| in the quest for easeier novice access.
|||
||| ----------------
||| This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
||| the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
||| click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see
||| the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft
||| Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane.
|||
||| http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...2211804a16d8&dg=microsoft.public.officeupdate

 

[Mark McClure]

Wow Mily. "stay at home mom who does nothing..." I hope you don't work for
Microsoft. Your autocratic, demeaning attitude is embarrassing. Look at how
many posts there are pleading with MS to restore the traditional menu bar
option. This is a serious consumer demand that is being ignored. Even if
there isn't a good alternative to MS Office generally, this will certainly
create a chilling effect on the purchase / upgrade and adoption of the new
products.

PS. I can only hope that you have someone else raising your children that
has a more generous heart than you appear to have. I'm a stay at home father
(earning $280k per year). "It ain't easy". My hat is off to all of you stay
at home mothers out there.

One man's meat is another man's poison. I have found my productivity has increased using the Ribbon, especially in little used applications like Excel for me.

As for alternatives, there are certainly many out there, some with feature sets more attractive or less attractive than Microsoft Office depending on your needs. I would certainly recommend Open Office for a stay at home mom who does nothing but email, web surfing and occasional documents. However, for the power user, I would recommend MSOffice. Having had no experience with Corel, I have a neutral stance there.

Like I said, use what you like, be it older versions of Office or alternative suites. It is your computing life, not mine.

--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, RBL asked:

| Thanks Milly.
|
| Meaning ... what? Don't upgrade? Use OpenOffice or WordPerfect?
|
| G-d, I hope the Ribbon doesn't become the defacto UI in Windows.
| It's just awful.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| Not going to happen - and Office 14 will have even more functional
|| ribbons. Stick with what you like.
||
|| --ÂÂ
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, RBL asked:
||
||| No reason that classic menus can't be supported in Office. How MSFT
||| could force a total UI rewrite on people who have mastered the old
||| UI AND ACTUALLY PREFER IT is beyond me. It's a simple matter to
||| support the old menus AND their shortcuts. The growing number of
||| add-ins offered by third-parties is a testament to market demand.
||| The problem is, these are NOT a workable solution. They still
||| require extra clicks, extra work, and they don't support shortcuts.
||| Please, please, please ... add this capability to Office ASAP,
||| preferably in the first SP. Great software isn't rigid and
||| dictatorial. It's fluid and flexible, and doesn't alienate the base
||| in the quest for easeier novice access.
|||
||| ----------------
||| This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
||| the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
||| click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see
||| the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft
||| Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the message pane.
|||
||| http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...2211804a16d8&dg=microsoft.public.officeupdate

 

[Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]]

WOW!

1. I am not a mother - too much of a chance of raising a moron like ones
who post here.

2. I don't work for Microsoft. Why is it that any contrary opinion means
that you work for Microsft???

3. I am a working person who is able to make my own reasoned decisions and
post them.

4. Good for you for having a stay-at-home business. i also have a
stay-at-home business to try to stave off the cuts being made to my full
time job as a public servant. Does that make your opinion more valuable
than mine?

What's your point?

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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

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After furious head scratching, Mark McClure asked:

| Wow Mily. "stay at home mom who does nothing..." I hope you don't
| work for Microsoft. Your autocratic, demeaning attitude is
| embarrassing. Look at how many posts there are pleading with MS to
| restore the traditional menu bar option. This is a serious consumer
| demand that is being ignored. Even if there isn't a good alternative
| to MS Office generally, this will certainly create a chilling effect
| on the purchase / upgrade and adoption of the new products.
|
| PS. I can only hope that you have someone else raising your children
| that has a more generous heart than you appear to have. I'm a stay
| at home father (earning $280k per year). "It ain't easy". My hat is
| off to all of you stay at home mothers out there.
|
| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| One man's meat is another man's poison. I have found my
|| productivity has increased using the Ribbon, especially in little
|| used applications like Excel for me.
||
|| As for alternatives, there are certainly many out there, some with
|| feature sets more attractive or less attractive than Microsoft
|| Office depending on your needs. I would certainly recommend Open
|| Office for a stay at home mom who does nothing but email, web
|| surfing and occasional documents. However, for the power user, I
|| would recommend MSOffice. Having had no experience with Corel, I
|| have a neutral stance there.
||
|| Like I said, use what you like, be it older versions of Office or
|| alternative suites. It is your computing life, not mine.
||
|| --Â
|| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||
|| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
|| reading.
||
|| After furious head scratching, RBL asked:
||
||| Thanks Milly.
|||
||| Meaning ... what? Don't upgrade? Use OpenOffice or WordPerfect?
|||
||| G-d, I hope the Ribbon doesn't become the defacto UI in Windows.
||| It's just awful.
|||
||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| Not going to happen - and Office 14 will have even more functional
|||| ribbons. Stick with what you like.
||||
|||| --ÂÂ
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, RBL asked:
||||
||||| No reason that classic menus can't be supported in Office. How
||||| MSFT could force a total UI rewrite on people who have mastered
||||| the old UI AND ACTUALLY PREFER IT is beyond me. It's a simple
||||| matter to support the old menus AND their shortcuts. The growing
||||| number of add-ins offered by third-parties is a testament to
||||| market demand. The problem is, these are NOT a workable solution.
||||| They still require extra clicks, extra work, and they don't
||||| support shortcuts. Please, please, please ... add this capability
||||| to Office ASAP, preferably in the first SP. Great software isn't
||||| rigid and dictatorial. It's fluid and flexible, and doesn't
||||| alienate the base in the quest for easeier novice access.
|||||
||||| ----------------
||||| This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
||||| the suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion,
||||| click the "I Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see
||||| the button, follow this link to open the suggestion in the
||||| Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then click "I Agree" in the
||||| message pane.
|||||
|||||
http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...2211804a16d8&dg=microsoft.public.officeupdate