Revised: PDF's created from Word2004 documents do not carry overURl and Maito links while they do

[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

I need a Straight and to the point answer to a question posed on Adobe
Acrobat Newsgroup and it repeatedly comes up.


Say you create a document in Word2004 That have some URL/Mailto links.

And say you create the same identical document in the equivent Word PC
Application.

Okay you convert these documents to PDF's

If you veiw the pdf's in the word document all the links are intact,
working are colored blue and underlined in the version using PC Word and
PC Acrobat.

But the version that was create with Mac Word and Mac ACrobat, all the
links are lost and all the text is black with no underlines.

The actual links say for example are typed as http://www.gohome.com or
mailto:[email protected], are there, they are just not
links.

I want an honest answer no fudging , no humming , no hawing.

Who has the problem Mac Office or Mac Acrobat?

And if its Office explain why?
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[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Hi Philip:

As far as I know, the answer depends on how you convert to PDF. If you use
PDFMaker.dot (click the Word toolbar button "Make PDF") then Adobe
extensively pre-processes the Word document before conversion and the links
will survive.

If you do not use PDFMaker.dot, the links will contain the Display Text
only, and they will not be active.

Hope this helps

I need a Straight and to the point answer to a question posed on Adobe
Acrobat Newsgroup and it repeatedly comes up.


Say you create a document in Word2004 That have some URL/Mailto links.

And say you create the same identical document in the equivent Word PC
Application.

Okay you convert these documents to PDF's

If you veiw the pdf's in the word document all the links are intact,
working are colored blue and underlined in the version using PC Word and
PC Acrobat.

But the version that was create with Mac Word and Mac ACrobat, all the
links are lost and all the text is black with no underlines.

The actual links say for example are typed as http://www.gohome.com or
mailto:[email protected], are there, they are just not
links.

I want an honest answer no fudging , no humming , no hawing.

Who has the problem Mac Office or Mac Acrobat?

And if its Office explain why?

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Sydney, Australia +61 4 1209 1410

 

[Rob Daly [MSFT]]

Hi Philip,

This is one that has come up on a number of occasions and we are still investigating if we can do anything to make this happen on our side. So far it looks like the answer is no. The reason? Well, on the mac PDFs are created from applications by going through the OS print APIs. If Word or any other application (say TextEdit or Pages, and you can try with these too) wanted to create a PDF where hyperlinks persisted in the editable PDF, then the print APIs would need to offer some means of providing a context to certain zones in the output. Currently, there is no API that allows that. You can check out documentation on Apple's print APIs here:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/CarbonPrintingManager_Ref/index.html

Furthermore, I do not know who's issue this is. I have heard reports that the Adobe newsgroups have claimed it is both Apple and Microsoft's issue. I do not think this is the case. Firstly, as I said, Word only uses the print APIs and those do not seem to offer what we need. Secondly, it is possible, but I really do not know (SO DO NOT QUOTE ME) that Apple do not have available PDF filters (licensed from Adobe) to contextualize content zones.


So... to answer your question - (a) this is not currently possible. (b) it is not Word's fault, (c) you should contact Adobe and Apple to find out who can provide a fix (d) if they say it is Word's fault, it is not - just try any other application and the same will be true.

Hope this gives you the straight answer you were looking for


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[paltenberg]

I am having the same problem with links not being active when
converting to PDF. But, when I convert from Word to PDF all my links
from the Word file show up blue and underlined, but I still have to go
through and make each link active. I'm not sure why other people don't
at least have the blue underlined text for links from Word. Are the
links active in Word? Maybe you need to make them active in Word if
they show up just like normal text in the PDF. That is, even if they
are a link with http://blahblah you still need to select it and make it
a hyperlinke (command+k).

I'm still at a loss as what to do about these links though. Do I have
to install Virtual PC just because of this?

~peter

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Thanks Rob:

Very valuable

Yep, I think it is correct that Apple did not licence the latest version of
the PDF converter from Adobe.

Cheers

Hi Philip,

This is one that has come up on a number of occasions and we are still
investigating if we can do anything to make this happen on our side. So far it
looks like the answer is no. The reason? Well, on the mac PDFs are created
from applications by going through the OS print APIs. If Word or any other
application (say TextEdit or Pages, and you can try with these too) wanted to
create a PDF where hyperlinks persisted in the editable PDF, then the print
APIs would need to offer some means of providing a context to certain zones in
the output. Currently, there is no API that allows that. You can check out
documentation on Apple's print APIs here:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/CarbonPrintingManage
r_Ref/index.html
<http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/CarbonPrintingManag
er_Ref/index.html>

Furthermore, I do not know who's issue this is. I have heard reports that the
Adobe newsgroups have claimed it is both Apple and Microsoft's issue. I do not
think this is the case. Firstly, as I said, Word only uses the print APIs and
those do not seem to offer what we need. Secondly, it is possible, but I
really do not know (SO DO NOT QUOTE ME) that Apple do not have available PDF
filters (licensed from Adobe) to contextualize content zones.


So... to answer your question - (a) this is not currently possible. (b) it is
not Word's fault, (c) you should contact Adobe and Apple to find out who can
provide a fix (d) if they say it is Word's fault, it is not - just try any
other application and the same will be true.

Hope this gives you the straight answer you were looking for

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[Phillip M. Jones, CE.T.]

That's because Adobe won't allow them to do so.

Apple would if they could.

If Apple were allowed to do so there would be no customers for Acrobat
for the Apple Crowd.

Adobe's not dumb.

Thanks Rob:

Very valuable

Yep, I think it is correct that Apple did not licence the latest version
of the PDF converter from Adobe.

Cheers


On 5/5/05 00:32, in article (e-mail address removed), "Rob

Hi Philip,

This is one that has come up on a number of occasions and we are
still investigating if we can do anything to make this happen on our
side. So far it looks like the answer is no. The reason? Well, on
the mac PDFs are created from applications by going through the OS
print APIs. If Word or any other application (say TextEdit or Pages,
and you can try with these too) wanted to create a PDF where
hyperlinks persisted in the editable PDF, then the print APIs would
need to offer some means of providing a context to certain zones in
the output. Currently, there is no API that allows that. You can
check out documentation on Apple's print APIs here:
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/CarbonPrintingManager_Ref/index.html
<http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Carbon/Reference/CarbonPrintingManager_Ref/index.html>


Furthermore, I do not know who's issue this is. I have heard reports
that the Adobe newsgroups have claimed it is both Apple and
Microsoft's issue. I do not think this is the case. Firstly, as I
said, Word only uses the print APIs and those do not seem to offer
what we need. Secondly, it is possible, but I really do not know (SO
DO NOT QUOTE ME) that Apple do not have available PDF filters
(licensed from Adobe) to contextualize content zones.


So... to answer your question - (a) this is not currently possible.
(b) it is not Word's fault, (c) you should contact Adobe and Apple
to find out who can provide a fix (d) if they say it is Word's
fault, it is not - just try any other application and the same will
be true.

Hope this gives you the straight answer you were looking for



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Sydney, Australia +61 4 1209 1410

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