Ribbon menus in OneNote?

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doc

Correct. OneNote 2007 did not get the ribbon.
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
Click to expand...
According to an article in last weeks eWeek they're considering adding
it to both Visio and OneNote in a future service pack based on
customer feedback

Feb 5, 2007 issue
page 18
Office's makeover to continue
Ribbon based UI will likely be expanded to other Office applications
 
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Patrick Schmid [MVP]

It is extremely unlikely that it will happen via a service pack. That is
a massive change that I would assume would only happen in a new release,
not a service pack.

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Correct. OneNote 2007 did not get the ribbon.
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
Click to expand...
According to an article in last weeks eWeek they're considering adding
it to both Visio and OneNote in a future service pack based on
customer feedback

Feb 5, 2007 issue
page 18
Office's makeover to continue
Ribbon based UI will likely be expanded to other Office applications
Click to expand...
 
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xTenn

Erik said:
You must be joking...The ribbon is one of the best features of Office
2007. It takes a little bit of time to get used to, but, all the
advanced features are presented in a more pleasing fashion that helps
"non-power users" access the "power user" functions.

I can't wait until the ribbon comes out for OneNote (just as long as it
disappears in full screen mode).
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IMHO (and for the sake of screen real estate everywhere) would it not be
better to just teach the "non-power users" how to use their menus? ;)

I mean, I don't hate it, I just don't like the footprint on the screen
it has and it interpretation of the need of the moment. Context
sensitivity is a good concept, but I think it has missed the mark with
the current implementation of Ribbons.

In other words, if it goes away in full screen mode I too would be happy
with it (but only because I happen to use that a great deal in OneNote).

(BTW, great OneNote videos, Erik. But I digress...)
 
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Joe E

It's not in Publisher 2007 either... I agree it does take up screen space but
most monitors are at least 17" these days. The ribbon is growing on me,
albeit at first it was a little clunky for me to get used to. I do not like
that different office applications have a different interfaces; some ribbon,
some menus. I think this was a bad move. I know it's a big job but geeze make
the programs consistant. They had 3 years to implement this from office '03.

Patrick Schmid said:
It is extremely unlikely that it will happen via a service pack. That is
a massive change that I would assume would only happen in a new release,
not a service pack.

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Correct. OneNote 2007 did not get the ribbon.
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
Click to expand...
Where are they? Did OneNote release with Office 2007 without the new
interface?
Click to expand...
According to an article in last weeks eWeek they're considering adding
it to both Visio and OneNote in a future service pack based on
customer feedback

Feb 5, 2007 issue
page 18
Office's makeover to continue
Ribbon based UI will likely be expanded to other Office applications
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

I mean, I don't hate it, I just don't like the footprint on the screen
it has and it interpretation of the need of the moment. Context
sensitivity is a good concept, but I think it has missed the mark with
the current implementation of Ribbons.
Click to expand...
The footprint is subjective. If you do an objective comparison with
Office 2003, you have about the same real estate for your document with
2007. The difference is that Office 2007's window is smaller in the
status bar area and shifts the space it gained there to the top. Hence,
it looks bigger.


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Patrick Schmid [MVP]

Three years is a short time to do this actually. Remember, they had to
first invent the whole thing and then implement it. Access, Excel,
Outlook, PowerPoint and Word were a lot of work...

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It's not in Publisher 2007 either... I agree it does take up screen space but
most monitors are at least 17" these days. The ribbon is growing on me,
albeit at first it was a little clunky for me to get used to. I do not like
that different office applications have a different interfaces; some ribbon,
some menus. I think this was a bad move. I know it's a big job but geeze make
the programs consistant. They had 3 years to implement this from office '03.

Patrick Schmid said:
It is extremely unlikely that it will happen via a service pack. That is
a massive change that I would assume would only happen in a new release,
not a service pack.

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
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On Feb 12, 11:34 am, "Patrick Schmid [MVP]" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Correct. OneNote 2007 did not get the ribbon.
Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]

Where are they? Did OneNote release with Office 2007 without the new
interface?
According to an article in last weeks eWeek they're considering adding
it to both Visio and OneNote in a future service pack based on
customer feedback

Feb 5, 2007 issue
page 18
Office's makeover to continue
Ribbon based UI will likely be expanded to other Office applications
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
X

xTenn

Patrick said:
The footprint is subjective. If you do an objective comparison with
Office 2003, you have about the same real estate for your document with
2007. The difference is that Office 2007's window is smaller in the
status bar area and shifts the space it gained there to the top. Hence,
it looks bigger.
Click to expand...

For any real comparison you would have to turn off the icons on the
older (such as in Excel 2003) and minimize the ribbon on the newer
(excel 2007). Now, when you click on a menu choice 2007 gives you a
ribbon bar that covers the top of your work, as compared to a single
menu that would be there for a choice.

Added to that the additional real estate required for any secondary
dialogs the ribbons open for choice (which for some reason I seem to hit
a lot) and it just TO ME seems messier and busy. And one annoyance that
bugs me - accidentally double click on a menu and you have to minimize
the ribbon again. There may be a fix for that small one, but seems to
typify the design methodology of the ribbon - it serves the ribbon , not
the user who just minimized the thing. ;)

Not a big deal for sure, but given the usefulness of Onenotes icons
while using a pen I would hate the screen to be even more crowded with
such a device as a ribbon popping about. And that is just my opinion, I
am sure you can find others who think otherwise.
 
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Patrick Schmid [MVP]

The footprint is subjective. If you do an objective comparison with
For any real comparison you would have to turn off the icons on the
older (such as in Excel 2003) and minimize the ribbon on the newer
(excel 2007). Now, when you click on a menu choice 2007 gives you a
ribbon bar that covers the top of your work, as compared to a single
menu that would be there for a choice.
Click to expand...
Nope, not a real comparison. Most users don't run their Office 2003
without any toolbars. See
http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2006/04/17/577485.aspx for a
detailed comparison.
Added to that the additional real estate required for any secondary
dialogs the ribbons open for choice (which for some reason I seem to hit
a lot) and it just TO ME seems messier and busy. And one annoyance that
bugs me - accidentally double click on a menu and you have to minimize
the ribbon again. There may be a fix for that small one, but seems to
typify the design methodology of the ribbon - it serves the ribbon , not
the user who just minimized the thing. ;)
Click to expand...
Minimization was an after-thought...

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