Running app over Terminal Services

[Markus]

I’d like to set up to run my Access app using Terminal Services (TS). Would
appreciate it if someone could get me started by answering a few specific
questions.

I understand MS provides virtual server 2003 or 2005 to conduct such testing
in those environments without the need to purchase server 2003/2005. Is that
correct?

Next, I am unclear on just how virtual servers work. As I understand it,
with a virtual server, I will not need to partition my hd to add the server
OS. Is that correct?

Without a separate partition, I am unclear how you boot up the server OS to
start testing. Do you just run it from an icon on the desktop?

Once I am up and running this virtual server, do I install Word, Excel,
Access onto the server, or will I use the existing installations on the
machine before I installed Virtual Server? That is, is Virtual Server now
running in it’s own “partition†independent of the XP Pro machine on which I
downloaded it, and so will I need to install these apps for remote access
thru TS?

I believe once I get past basic questions, I should then be able to follow
whatever help there is with the virtual server in order to get TS up and
working on this server. But if you have any other advice, I would be most
grateful.

I very much appreciate any help on some answers.

Thanks,
Mark

 

[a a r o n . k e m p f]

you don't need TS; you need SQL Server.

SQL Server (and ADP for example) runs great over VPN, WAN, etc.

It's a much simpler architecture.

UPSIZE, UPSIZE, UPSIZE!

-Aaron




On Jun 2

 

[Tony Toews [MVP]]

Please ignore Aaron Kempf. He is monomaniacal.

I understand MS provides virtual server 2003 or 2005 to conduct such testing
in those environments without the need to purchase server 2003/2005. Is that
correct?

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/virtualserver/

I do not know what is free or is not free when it comes to Virtual
Server and the operating systems installed therein.

Next, I am unclear on just how virtual servers work. As I understand it,
with a virtual server, I will not need to partition my hd to add the server
OS. Is that correct?
Correct.

Without a separate partition, I am unclear how you boot up the server OS to
start testing. Do you just run it from an icon on the desktop?

Yes. There is a .VHD (Virtual Hard Drive) file which is a few Gb in
size although it starts off at 0 kb. As you install the OS that VHD
file increases in size to hold the OS. Of course as you install
applications that file gets larger and larger. The guest OS appears
as a window in the host OS. Real interesting to see OSs such as Win
98 as a window inside Win XP.

Once I am up and running this virtual server, do I install Word, Excel,
Access onto the server, or will I use the existing installations on the
machine before I installed Virtual Server?

Yes, you will need to install your apps on the Virtual PC/Server
System. And you must have enough software licenses for such.

that is, is Virtual Server now
running in it’s own “partition” independent of the XP Pro machine on which I
downloaded it, and so will I need to install these apps for remote access
thru TS?

Yes, and yes.

I believe once I get past basic questions, I should then be able to follow
whatever help there is with the virtual server in order to get TS up and
working on this server. But if you have any other advice, I would be most
grateful.

I do not know how TS works on these. Do note however that you are
likely required to license the guest OS. That is while Virtual Server
might be free, the Win 2003 Server running inside it very likely is
*NOT* free.

Tony
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[michael]

salut

I don't know that virtual servers have anything at all to do with
Terminal Server. I, for one, have been using, setting up and
maintaining WTS installations for many years, but have never once
approached the subject of "virtual servers."

Testing WTS is easy, given that every installation of Windows Server
starting with 2000 includes two free administrative WTS logons.
Granted, you'd still need to test your app when running with
restricted privileges, but you can still do the basic setup and
testing under the admin logon.

 

[David W. Fenton]

virtual server

I don't know that virtual servers have anything at all to do with
Terminal Server. I, for one, have been using, setting up and
maintaining WTS installations for many years, but have never once
approached the subject of "virtual servers."

Testing WTS is easy, given that every installation of Windows Server
starting with 2000 includes two free administrative WTS logons.
Granted, you'd still need to test your app when running with
restricted privileges, but you can still do the basic setup and
testing under the admin logon.