Save changes to normal on every exit?

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brian

Hi there, I don't know much about macros, but I get this message:

Changes have been made that effect the global template, Normal. Do
you want to save those changes?

Every time I close Word. Even if I just open a blank document, and
close it without making a change.

I have run Virex, and it shows no virus. I look in the "Macros" and
there are 13 macros, none of which I can click on and delete. When I
look in the VB Macro editor, I cannot see any of these macros. When I
try to "Step" through one, I get the message that the project is
locked, and it is unviewable.

Any ideas how to get rid of this message? Or delete these macros?

Thanks!

Brian
 
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Beth Rosengard

Hi Brian,

In Word>Preferences>Save, turn off "Prompt to save Normal". It will still
save it every time, it just won't prompt you....

Assuming you're using Entourage, the reason you get the message is because
Entourage writes the contents of your contacts folder into the Normal
template every few minutes. There's a preference to turn this off but Word
ignores it. It's a bug.

--
Beth Rosengard
Mac MVP

Mac Word FAQ: <http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/WordMac/index.htm>
Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>
 
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Elliott Roper

Beth Rosengard said:
Hi Brian,

In Word>Preferences>Save, turn off "Prompt to save Normal". It will still
save it every time, it just won't prompt you....
I'm very nervous of letting Word do that. If you ever miss-answer one
of those delightfully confusing dialogs, where Word sidles up to to ask
if you would like to change a style definition to match your current
formatting mistake - but not in so many words, you are left wondering
why your styles are all mucked up the next time you use Word.

(The best way of avoiding 'Normal' muck-ups is the template method of
Clive Huggan, as seen in "Bend Word to Your WIll")
Assuming you're using Entourage, the reason you get the message is because
Entourage writes the contents of your contacts folder into the Normal
template every few minutes. There's a preference to turn this off but Word
ignores it. It's a bug.

One of the reasons I never let Entourage anywhere near a machine of
mine. OK I know its unfair to Entourage, but I need Word more than I
need another e-mail program, or yet another address book.
 
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Sean Brophy

Where is this "bend word to your will" article?

I wonder if it reveals how to save normal periodically without quitting
word. This is something I am desperate for as so many times I have spent a
few hours putting in auto-text entries only for word to crash and I lose the
whole lot as Normal wasn't saved.
 
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Dayo Mitchell

Well, the article's pretty long but well worth reading, search for it on
http://www.mvps.org/word/FAQs

However, for your exact problem, a Save All command also prompts to save
Normal.dot, as well as all open files. I have replaced the Save icon my
toolbar with Save all, but I think using option-cmd-S will also do it.

Dayo
 
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John McGhie [MVP]

Hi Sean:

Hold down the Shift key then go to the File Menu: extra options have
appeared, one of which is Save All. Later versions of Word have a two-level
menu structure: you need to hold down the Shift key to see the advanced
commands.

Cheers


from said:
Where is this "bend word to your will" article?

I wonder if it reveals how to save normal periodically without quitting
word. This is something I am desperate for as so many times I have spent a
few hours putting in auto-text entries only for word to crash and I lose the
whole lot as Normal wasn't saved.

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post replies to the newsgroup to maintain the thread.

John McGhie, Microsoft MVP: Word for Macintosh and Word for Windows
Consultant Technical Writer <[email protected]>
+61 4 1209 1410; Sydney, Australia: GMT + 10 hrs
 
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Clive Huggan

Sean,

John, Dayo, Elliott and Beth have answered your immediate query. I'll answer
your question re Elliott's remark earlier ('The best way of avoiding
'Normal' muck-ups is the template method of Clive Huggan, as seen in "Bend
Word to Your Will"').

Elliott was referring to a practice that some people who use Word
intensively move to -- poorly documented but referred to on this newsgroup
now and again (do a Google search to get to them).

Essentially it is to make and use your own templates instead of the Normal
template for documents of a particular type. It gives you more flexibility,
in that the template is designed around the requirements of say, one client,
or one type of strategic plan. Like so many thing in Word, it's darned easy
once you realize you need it -- and when you end up doing it you wonder how
on earth you managed in the past. Some of the people who do this more or
less leave the Normal template alone.

One of the minor advantages of this approach is that you're asked whether
you want to save the changes made to your template on the first occasion you
save the document after making changes to the template.

Commands, toolbars etc etc are very easily transferred between these
templates -- but customizations of default toolbars made in a Normal
template can't be -- another point of vulnerability.

"Bend Word to your Will" is a downloadable Word document of my notes on the
way I use Word, available at
www.mvps.org/word/FAQs/WordMac/Bend/BendWord.htm
Some material relating to the concept is in the section on styles beginning
on page 63, and there are others, such as the pros and cons of changing
toolbars or keeping the default toolbars in Normal. And there's an appendix
on a number of features of "minimum maintenance" documents that are also
relevant.

Don't be put off by Dayo saying (correctly) that the document is pretty long
-- other than the intro and one section on styles, the rest is in dictionary
form, with lots of hyperlinked cross-references. The Find command is best
used, in addition to the table of contents of course, to find a discussion
-- which can sometimes be peripheral to a different topic.

(One other point: if you are in Word 2001 or earlier and you want rock-solid
stability when working on long documents, you should consider quitting Word
now and again and re-starting, for several reasons mentioned in the
introduction to "Bend Word to your Will" -- about page 20 if I remember
correctly.)


-- Clive Huggan
* Please post all comments to the newsgroup for the benefit of others who
may be interested.
* Remove "the" from my address above if you need to send an e-mail to me
directly (although that would be exceptional). Please note that e-mails
with an attachment will be automatically rejected.
* If anyone is still reading down this far, here's a question: is it time
for you to back up your Normal template and all your Word settings? (This
should be on a medium other than the internal hard drive and, to protect
against theft and fire, stored in a different building.)
============================================================
 
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Clive Huggan

Sean,

John, Dayo, Elliott and Beth have answered your immediate query. I'll answer
your question re Elliott's remark earlier ('The best way of avoiding
'Normal' muck-ups is the template method of Clive Huggan, as seen in "Bend
Word to Your Will"').

Elliott was referring to a practice that some people who use Word
intensively move to -- poorly documented but referred to on this newsgroup
now and again (do a Google search to get to them).

Ah! Found it! Look in particular for J.E. McGimpsey's post "Re: Avoid the
normal template" on 2nd September (seems so long ago!). -- Clive H.
 

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