Saving as documents from templates

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HAL KUSHNER

I¹m a rookie at this, so please be gentle while I expose my ignorance. I
have just moved from MS Office X to MS Office 2004. Running Mac G4, OS
X.3.5. For years, I have been writing letters on a personal stationery
template , entitled Hals Stationery.dot which I open from a shortcut [alias]
on the desktop, write a letter and then Œsave as¹ Letter to XYZ.doc. With
the 2004 Word App, I get an error message informing me that I can¹t save a
template as a document. It presents me with compatibility issues, etc...but
doesn¹t tell me what to do. I¹ve been saving these letters with a .dot
suffix as a Stationery template...but intuitively understand that this
creates another template....an action I¹d like to avoid.

Question: How can I open my stationery template, write a letter and save as
a document with .doc suffix?

Sorry to be so wordy, but didn¹t have any idea how best to express myself.

Hal Kushner MD
COL(ret) US Army
(e-mail address removed)
 
E

Elliott Roper

HAL KUSHNER said:
I¹m a rookie at this, so please be gentle while I expose my ignorance. I
have just moved from MS Office X to MS Office 2004. Running Mac G4, OS
X.3.5. For years, I have been writing letters on a personal stationery
template , entitled Hals Stationery.dot which I open from a shortcut [alias]
on the desktop, write a letter and then Œsave as¹ Letter to XYZ.doc. With
the 2004 Word App, I get an error message informing me that I can¹t save a
template as a document. It presents me with compatibility issues, etc...but
doesn¹t tell me what to do. I¹ve been saving these letters with a .dot
suffix as a Stationery template...but intuitively understand that this
creates another template....an action I¹d like to avoid.

Question: How can I open my stationery template, write a letter and save as
a document with .doc suffix?

Sorry to be so wordy, but didn¹t have any idea how best to express myself.
The normal way is to create a new document based on a template by using
the project gallery. I dunno how you can open a template directly and
save it as anything but a template.

Try putting Hals Stationery.dot in the templates folder where the
project gallery can see it; and opening it via the gallery. It will
then come up as an anonymous document aka 'document 1' and when you
come to save it, you get the normal dialog for choosing word doc or rtf
or plain text or text with fries and mayo or...

ps I'm on v.X It might be different in 2004
 
M

matt neuburg

HAL KUSHNER said:
have just moved from MS Office X to MS Office 2004. Running Mac G4, OS
X.3.5. For years, I have been writing letters on a personal stationery
template , entitled Hals Stationery.dot which I open from a shortcut [alias]
on the desktop, write a letter and then 'save as' Letter to XYZ.doc. With
the 2004 Word App, I get an error message informing me that I can't save a
template as a document. It presents me with compatibility issues, etc...but
doesn't tell me what to do.

Oh, yes it does. Look in Word's online help under the entry entitled
(get this): When saving my work, I can't change the file type from
"Document Template" to "Word Document." m.
 
H

HAL KUSHNER

Thanks..that works.....seems a cumbersome fix compared to Office X...I guess
the programmers tried to make it completely idiot proof, and in so doing
created some idiots...me. Gratuitous upgrades are the bane of my existence.
Thank you for pointing me to the answer. Apparently with that exact
locution: "When saving my work....", I'm not the only idiot who had this
problem.
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matt neuburg9/11/04 7:33
(e-mail address removed)1gjyj6o.1howx3hrs6g88N%[email protected]
HAL KUSHNER said:
have just moved from MS Office X to MS Office 2004. Running Mac G4, OS
X.3.5. For years, I have been writing letters on a personal stationery
template , entitled Hals Stationery.dot which I open from a shortcut [alias]
on the desktop, write a letter and then 'save as' Letter to XYZ.doc. With
the 2004 Word App, I get an error message informing me that I can't save a
template as a document. It presents me with compatibility issues, etc...but
doesn't tell me what to do.

Oh, yes it does. Look in Word's online help under the entry entitled
(get this): When saving my work, I can't change the file type from
"Document Template" to "Word Document." m.
 
M

matt neuburg

HAL KUSHNER said:
Thanks..that works.....seems a cumbersome fix compared to Office X...I guess
the programmers tried to make it completely idiot proof, and in so doing
created some idiots...me. Gratuitous upgrades are the bane of my existence.
Thank you for pointing me to the answer. Apparently with that exact
locution: "When saving my work....", I'm not the only idiot who had this
problem.

You should not have been able to do it in Word X either. The very same
entry appears in the online help in Word X. It says you can only make a
document from a template by opening the template from the Project
Gallery. If you were somehow opening a template from the desktop and
saving it as a document, you were doing something Microsoft didn't want
you to do (probably because this is how viruses are made). So if you
*were* doing it, this was a bug, and the bug has now been fixed. m.

HAL KUSHNER said:
have just moved from MS Office X to MS Office 2004. Running Mac G4, OS
X.3.5. For years, I have been writing letters on a personal stationery
template , entitled Hals Stationery.dot which I open from a shortcut
[alias] on the desktop, write a letter and then 'save as' Letter to
XYZ.doc. With the 2004 Word App, I get an error message informing me
that I can't save a template as a document. It presents me with
compatibility issues, etc...but doesn't tell me what to do.

Oh, yes it does. Look in Word's online help under the entry entitled
(get this): When saving my work, I can't change the file type from
"Document Template" to "Word Document." m.
 
E

Elliott Roper

matt neuburg said:
You should not have been able to do it in Word X either. The very same
entry appears in the online help in Word X. It says you can only make a
document from a template by opening the template from the Project
Gallery. If you were somehow opening a template from the desktop and
saving it as a document, you were doing something Microsoft didn't want
you to do (probably because this is how viruses are made). So if you
*were* doing it, this was a bug, and the bug has now been fixed. m.

That is correct. This thread prompted me to experiment with a problem I
was seeing with shared 'documents' re-appearing as templates. v.X does
not mind you saving a template with a .doc extension, but it is still a
template. I never had been sharing documents - it was a template in
full drag and mis-applied lipstick. The only way I can get a document
from a template is to place the template in a folder that Word expects
to find templates in, and then create a document based on that
template. Which is as it should be. I guess. If the help were usable, I
would have known that already. doh!
 

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