Scanning into Word 2007

D

Darrell

I was able in word 2003 to scan directly into it from my scanner. Now the
scanner software does not list word as an option because it is 2007. My
scanner is an hp 6310 all-in-one. Is there anything I can do from the word
side or am I at the mercy of HP?
 
D

Darrell

JoAnn, What I was sayingn is that the software that came with my printer does
not recognize word 2007 as a possible candidate to write the scanned document
"to".
Is there some other kind of work around?
Darrell

JoAnn Paules said:
Use the software that came with your printer.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




Darrell said:
I was able in word 2003 to scan directly into it from my scanner. Now the
scanner software does not list word as an option because it is 2007. My
scanner is an hp 6310 all-in-one. Is there anything I can do from the word
side or am I at the mercy of HP?
 
J

JoAnn Paules [MVP]

Check to see if there's an upgrade for your printer software.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




Darrell said:
JoAnn, What I was sayingn is that the software that came with my printer
does
not recognize word 2007 as a possible candidate to write the scanned
document
"to".
Is there some other kind of work around?
Darrell

JoAnn Paules said:
Use the software that came with your printer.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




Darrell said:
I was able in word 2003 to scan directly into it from my scanner. Now
the
scanner software does not list word as an option because it is 2007. My
scanner is an hp 6310 all-in-one. Is there anything I can do from the
word
side or am I at the mercy of HP?
 
D

Don

JoAnn, What I was sayingn is that the software that came with my
printer does not recognize word 2007 as a possible candidate to write
the scanned document "to".
Is there some other kind of work around?
Darrell

JoAnn Paules said:
Use the software that came with your printer.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




Darrell said:
I was able in word 2003 to scan directly into it from my scanner.
Now the
scanner software does not list word as an option because it is
2007. My scanner is an hp 6310 all-in-one. Is there anything I can
do from the word side or am I at the mercy of HP?

Perhaps that's because "saving" your scanned documents is NOT related to
"writing to your printer".

A scaner utilizing OCR, first; scans the document as a temporary TIF
file, then the OCR software (which BTW comes with your scanner) coverts
the recognized text to what ever file formats are available from the
software of which you utilized ("acquired") the OCR software through.

It's a simple task to utilize WordPad as you "acquire" software. Scanner
setup software have allowed this option since 1996 or earlier.
Afterwards, you may convert the WordPad RTF (aka Word 6.0) to what ever
version or format you desire utilizing Word 2007.
 
A

Adge

I think there's a misunderstanding here. In older versions of Word there was
an option to import TEXT from a scanner. That seems to have vanished
completely. All the replies seem to expect me to scan in my text separately
to some other program and then copy-and-paste into Word - this is impossibly
time consuming. There must be a better way.
 
S

Suzanne S. Barnhill

If there is a better way, I don't know of it. Scanner support has been
dropped from Word 2007. Your scanner software may offer an option to scan
into Word document format.
 
G

Graham Mayor

I think you are referring to Microsoft Document Imaging? I understand that
this (as in previous versions) is not installed by default..

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Graham Mayor - Word MVP


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A

Adge

Scanner support has been dropped? That's insane! It's always been a major
item of use - if it's truly not available I think my company will have to
change to a different application altogether. Its that serious.
 
A

Adge

Yes, I can understand that. We do that too for whole documents.

But a lot of our work involves an outer document with several long citations
from paper documents.

In the past, we've written the outer document in Word, inserting the
citations directly from the scanner as needed. It seems now we will have to
scan each potential citation source as a separate Word document first, and
then cut-and-paste. This is itself slow, it will encourage unnecessary
scanning, and inevitably a citation will have been overlooked and will have
to be scanned and saved and opened. All of this wil massively increase our
turnround time.

I'm wondering if there is a Visual Basic solution, but that will cost money,
as well.

--
Alan Jackson


JoAnn Paules said:
I've never had to do a copy and paste. I scan my docs in and then send it to
Word with the scanner's built-in OCR software.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375
 
L

loubhappy

I was able to scan onto clipboard then into word -BUT- no text could be
edited except for those specified on tool bar. A useless exercise. Lot of
postings about this and I don't think that printer software is the problem.
Adge said:
Yes, I can understand that. We do that too for whole documents.

But a lot of our work involves an outer document with several long citations
from paper documents.

In the past, we've written the outer document in Word, inserting the
citations directly from the scanner as needed. It seems now we will have to
scan each potential citation source as a separate Word document first, and
then cut-and-paste. This is itself slow, it will encourage unnecessary
scanning, and inevitably a citation will have been overlooked and will have
to be scanned and saved and opened. All of this wil massively increase our
turnround time.

I'm wondering if there is a Visual Basic solution, but that will cost money,
as well.

--
Alan Jackson


JoAnn Paules said:
I've never had to do a copy and paste. I scan my docs in and then send it to
Word with the scanner's built-in OCR software.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




Adge said:
I think there's a misunderstanding here. In older versions of Word there
was
an option to import TEXT from a scanner. That seems to have vanished
completely. All the replies seem to expect me to scan in my text
separately
to some other program and then copy-and-paste into Word - this is
impossibly
time consuming. There must be a better way.
--
Alan Jackson


:

I was able in word 2003 to scan directly into it from my scanner. Now the
scanner software does not list word as an option because it is 2007. My
scanner is an hp 6310 all-in-one. Is there anything I can do from the
word
side or am I at the mercy of HP?
 
G

Graham Mayor

Of course it can't be edited. A scanned document is a graphic. Word is not a
graphics editor. If you want to edit the document you need to convert the
graphic to editable text, for which you need OCR (optical character reading)
software. Word 2007 comes with a rudimentary OCR package called Microsoft
Document Imaging, which is not installed by default. Re-run Office setup and
install it.

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP


<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
I was able to scan onto clipboard then into word -BUT- no text could
be edited except for those specified on tool bar. A useless
exercise. Lot of postings about this and I don't think that printer
software said:
Yes, I can understand that. We do that too for whole documents.

But a lot of our work involves an outer document with several long
citations from paper documents.

In the past, we've written the outer document in Word, inserting the
citations directly from the scanner as needed. It seems now we will
have to scan each potential citation source as a separate Word
document first, and then cut-and-paste. This is itself slow, it will
encourage unnecessary scanning, and inevitably a citation will have
been overlooked and will have to be scanned and saved and opened.
All of this wil massively increase our turnround time.

I'm wondering if there is a Visual Basic solution, but that will
cost money, as well.

--
Alan Jackson


JoAnn Paules said:
I've never had to do a copy and paste. I scan my docs in and then
send it to Word with the scanner's built-in OCR software.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




I think there's a misunderstanding here. In older versions of Word
there was
an option to import TEXT from a scanner. That seems to have
vanished completely. All the replies seem to expect me to scan in
my text separately
to some other program and then copy-and-paste into Word - this is
impossibly
time consuming. There must be a better way.
--
Alan Jackson


:

I was able in word 2003 to scan directly into it from my scanner.
Now the scanner software does not list word as an option because
it is 2007. My scanner is an hp 6310 all-in-one. Is there
anything I can do from the word
side or am I at the mercy of HP?
 
A

Adge

This is getting worse and worse. So even OCR isn't automatic, and has to go
through yet another stage?

My company - with my full support and in part on my advice - has decided to
return to Office 2003 for the moment, and is evaluating other options like
OpenOffice and StarOffice. This wasn't the only issue we have with Office
2007, but it was the one that made it economically unusable. We do
consultancy for other companies, and we are advising them to take the same
route.

We find Microsoft's attitude on this incredible.
--
Alan Jackson


Graham Mayor said:
Of course it can't be edited. A scanned document is a graphic. Word is not a
graphics editor. If you want to edit the document you need to convert the
graphic to editable text, for which you need OCR (optical character reading)
software. Word 2007 comes with a rudimentary OCR package called Microsoft
Document Imaging, which is not installed by default. Re-run Office setup and
install it.

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP


<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
I was able to scan onto clipboard then into word -BUT- no text could
be edited except for those specified on tool bar. A useless
exercise. Lot of postings about this and I don't think that printer
software said:
Yes, I can understand that. We do that too for whole documents.

But a lot of our work involves an outer document with several long
citations from paper documents.

In the past, we've written the outer document in Word, inserting the
citations directly from the scanner as needed. It seems now we will
have to scan each potential citation source as a separate Word
document first, and then cut-and-paste. This is itself slow, it will
encourage unnecessary scanning, and inevitably a citation will have
been overlooked and will have to be scanned and saved and opened.
All of this wil massively increase our turnround time.

I'm wondering if there is a Visual Basic solution, but that will
cost money, as well.

--
Alan Jackson


:

I've never had to do a copy and paste. I scan my docs in and then
send it to Word with the scanner's built-in OCR software.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




I think there's a misunderstanding here. In older versions of Word
there was
an option to import TEXT from a scanner. That seems to have
vanished completely. All the replies seem to expect me to scan in
my text separately
to some other program and then copy-and-paste into Word - this is
impossibly
time consuming. There must be a better way.
--
Alan Jackson


:

I was able in word 2003 to scan directly into it from my scanner.
Now the scanner software does not list word as an option because
it is 2007. My scanner is an hp 6310 all-in-one. Is there
anything I can do from the word
side or am I at the mercy of HP?
 
B

Beth Melton

I'm not sure what you mean by "Microsoft's attitude on this" but Word has
never had OCR functionality built-in.

What did you do exactly in the previous version to accomplish what you are
trying to do in Word 2007? Perhaps a third-party add-in was used? A lot of
scanners include some type of OCR functionality that is automatically
installed and integrated in Word when you install the scanner utilities.

FWIW, I don't think OpenOffice or StarOffice has OCR functionality built-in
either.

Please post all follow-up questions to the newsgroup. Requests for
assistance by email cannot be acknowledged.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Beth Melton

Adge said:
This is getting worse and worse. So even OCR isn't automatic, and has to
go
through yet another stage?

My company - with my full support and in part on my advice - has decided
to
return to Office 2003 for the moment, and is evaluating other options like
OpenOffice and StarOffice. This wasn't the only issue we have with Office
2007, but it was the one that made it economically unusable. We do
consultancy for other companies, and we are advising them to take the same
route.

We find Microsoft's attitude on this incredible.
--
Alan Jackson


Graham Mayor said:
Of course it can't be edited. A scanned document is a graphic. Word is
not a
graphics editor. If you want to edit the document you need to convert the
graphic to editable text, for which you need OCR (optical character
reading)
software. Word 2007 comes with a rudimentary OCR package called Microsoft
Document Imaging, which is not installed by default. Re-run Office setup
and
install it.

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP


<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
I was able to scan onto clipboard then into word -BUT- no text could
be edited except for those specified on tool bar. A useless
exercise. Lot of postings about this and I don't think that printer
software is the problem. "Adge" wrote:

Yes, I can understand that. We do that too for whole documents.

But a lot of our work involves an outer document with several long
citations from paper documents.

In the past, we've written the outer document in Word, inserting the
citations directly from the scanner as needed. It seems now we will
have to scan each potential citation source as a separate Word
document first, and then cut-and-paste. This is itself slow, it will
encourage unnecessary scanning, and inevitably a citation will have
been overlooked and will have to be scanned and saved and opened.
All of this wil massively increase our turnround time.

I'm wondering if there is a Visual Basic solution, but that will
cost money, as well.

--
Alan Jackson


:

I've never had to do a copy and paste. I scan my docs in and then
send it to Word with the scanner's built-in OCR software.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




I think there's a misunderstanding here. In older versions of Word
there was
an option to import TEXT from a scanner. That seems to have
vanished completely. All the replies seem to expect me to scan in
my text separately
to some other program and then copy-and-paste into Word - this is
impossibly
time consuming. There must be a better way.
--
Alan Jackson


:

I was able in word 2003 to scan directly into it from my scanner.
Now the scanner software does not list word as an option because
it is 2007. My scanner is an hp 6310 all-in-one. Is there
anything I can do from the word
side or am I at the mercy of HP?
 
B

Bob Buckland ?:-\)

Hi Alan,

This is basically a peer support discussion group so not sure what 'attitude' you (plural) are referring to :) or what is getting
'worse and worse'.

The OCR capabilities of Microsoft Office are the same in Office 2003 and in Office 2007, in part because there are a number of 3rd
party apps that are available for enterprise use and/or that come with the printer scanner hardware.

===============
This is getting worse and worse. So even OCR isn't automatic, and has to go
through yet another stage?

My company - with my full support and in part on my advice - has decided to
return to Office 2003 for the moment, and is evaluating other options like
OpenOffice and StarOffice. This wasn't the only issue we have with Office
2007, but it was the one that made it economically unusable. We do
consultancy for other companies, and we are advising them to take the same
route.

We find Microsoft's attitude on this incredible.
--
Alan Jackson>>
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
G

Graham Mayor

This is not Microsoft, but a user peer group, so your misguided derision is
targeted at the wrong audience. With respect to OCR and scanning
capabilities Word 2007 has *exactly* the same functionality as Word 2003. It
is merely applied in a slightly different manner. Whether or not you can be
bothered to learn how to do that is a matter for you. Whether your company
is giving the best advice is another question entirely.

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP


<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
This is getting worse and worse. So even OCR isn't automatic, and has
to go through yet another stage?

My company - with my full support and in part on my advice - has
decided to return to Office 2003 for the moment, and is evaluating
other options like OpenOffice and StarOffice. This wasn't the only
issue we have with Office 2007, but it was the one that made it
economically unusable. We do consultancy for other companies, and we
are advising them to take the same route.

We find Microsoft's attitude on this incredible.
Of course it can't be edited. A scanned document is a graphic. Word
is not a graphics editor. If you want to edit the document you need
to convert the graphic to editable text, for which you need OCR
(optical character reading) software. Word 2007 comes with a
rudimentary OCR package called Microsoft Document Imaging, which is
not installed by default. Re-run Office setup and install it.

--
<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
Graham Mayor - Word MVP


<>>< ><<> ><<> <>>< ><<> <>>< <>><<>
I was able to scan onto clipboard then into word -BUT- no text
could be edited except for those specified on tool bar. A useless
exercise. Lot of postings about this and I don't think that printer
software is the problem. "Adge" wrote:

Yes, I can understand that. We do that too for whole documents.

But a lot of our work involves an outer document with several long
citations from paper documents.

In the past, we've written the outer document in Word, inserting
the citations directly from the scanner as needed. It seems now we
will have to scan each potential citation source as a separate Word
document first, and then cut-and-paste. This is itself slow, it
will encourage unnecessary scanning, and inevitably a citation
will have been overlooked and will have to be scanned and saved
and opened. All of this wil massively increase our turnround time.

I'm wondering if there is a Visual Basic solution, but that will
cost money, as well.

--
Alan Jackson


:

I've never had to do a copy and paste. I scan my docs in and then
send it to Word with the scanner's built-in OCR software.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

~~~~~
How to ask a question
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/555375




I think there's a misunderstanding here. In older versions of
Word there was
an option to import TEXT from a scanner. That seems to have
vanished completely. All the replies seem to expect me to scan in
my text separately
to some other program and then copy-and-paste into Word - this is
impossibly
time consuming. There must be a better way.
--
Alan Jackson


:

I was able in word 2003 to scan directly into it from my
scanner. Now the scanner software does not list word as an
option because it is 2007. My scanner is an hp 6310 all-in-one.
Is there anything I can do from the word
side or am I at the mercy of HP?
 

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