Screen capture lost

[carrie]

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)

I did a screen shot but don't know where to find it. I thought it went to the clipboard, but I can't find the clipboard! (Previous directions to view scrapbook did not bring up clipboards.) I've been a Mac user for years, but my new Mac is taking me for a loop.

 

[Elliott Roper]

Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)

I did a screen shot but don't know where to find it. I thought it went to the
clipboard, but I can't find the clipboard! (Previous directions to view
scrapbook did not bring up clipboards.) I've been a Mac user for years, but
my new Mac is taking me for a loop.

Depends how you took the screen shot.
System Preferences È Keyboard and Mouse È Keyboard Shortcuts (Screen
shots) has a set of grabbing recipes.
Finder È Edit È show clipboard lets you look at the clipboard.
Word's scrapbook has nothing much to do with the clipboard unless you
deliberately place the contents of the clipboard in there. I dunno. I
haven't used the scrapbook for five years.
Various applications, including Word, will insert what you grabbed to
the clipboard into a document at the insertion point with a paste
(cmd-V)

My preferred grabber is cmd-ctrl-shift-4. Then use GraphicConverter's
CMD-J to make a new window containing the clipboard image.
I then save that to file after fettling it just so. Then I insert the
jpg or whatever into Word using insert from file.
Tedious but bombproof, unlike most graphics operations in Office.

 

[CyberTaz]

Hi Carrie -

Screen shots aren't an Office operation so they don't go into the Scrapbook
- which *is* an Office feature - automatically, although the shots can be
added. Content you cut/copy in the Office apps are stored in the Scrapbook &
can then be pasted repeatedly in any of the Office programs.

Elliott gave you some good guidance on screen shot alternatives to the
built-in OS X method, but I personally find that the included utility called
Grab does a fine job. You might want to try it out - you should find it in
Applications/Utilities. It isn't as versatile as GraphicConverter, but I've
found it to be more than adequate.

HTH |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Elliott Roper]

Hi Carrie -

Screen shots aren't an Office operation so they don't go into the Scrapbook
- which *is* an Office feature - automatically, although the shots can be
added. Content you cut/copy in the Office apps are stored in the Scrapbook &
can then be pasted repeatedly in any of the Office programs.

Elliott gave you some good guidance on screen shot alternatives to the
built-in OS X method, but I personally find that the included utility called
Grab does a fine job. You might want to try it out - you should find it in
Applications/Utilities. It isn't as versatile as GraphicConverter, but I've
found it to be more than adequate.

A bit pedantic, this reply. Sorry CyberTaz.

The screen shot stuff I recommended is pretty much the keyboard
shortcut way of using Grab. It *is* the OS X method.

My GraphicConverter remark was a possibly misleading sideshow. It was a
roundabout way of recommending the use of separate software to prepare
your screen grab for insertion into Word rather than give Word a chance
to fry it, as it will. You can of course paste the clipboard flavoured
grabs straight into Word. If they are the wrong size or not compressed
enough for your final output, then Word will make an irretrievable mess
of your only copy.

But you did explain the scrapbook v clipboard relationship better than
I did, so I guess we work as a team? ;-)

 

[CyberTaz]

Hello Elliott -

Once again we get enact adversarial roles... On a most congenial basis,
however ;-)

A bit pedantic, this reply. Sorry CyberTaz.

Pedantic? I don't think so... Read on;

The screen shot stuff I recommended is pretty much the keyboard
shortcut way of using Grab. It *is* the OS X method.

If that's the case, perhaps you can enlighten me as to why removing Grab.app
to the Trash OS X screen captures still work the same way. Further, the
keyboard shortcuts for the two methods are totally different & the pointer
appearance/behavior is not the same for the equivalent actions.

Additionally, using Grab makes content immediately available to be pasted
without involving the Clipboard, whereas the OS X screen capture methods
work differently.

Lastly, the OS X methods generate PNGs whereas Grab generates TIFFs.

My GraphicConverter remark was a possibly misleading sideshow. It was a
roundabout way of recommending the use of separate software to prepare
your screen grab for insertion into Word rather than give Word a chance
to fry it, as it will. You can of course paste the clipboard flavoured
grabs straight into Word. If they are the wrong size or not compressed
enough for your final output, then Word will make an irretrievable mess
of your only copy.

Not misleading at all - the point was made clear enough. What I didn't
expand on - since the matter of saving the capture hadn't been mentioned by
the OP - is that the Grab TIFF is a bit sharper than the OS X PNG, although
Grab, admittedly, doesn't offer the editing or format options provided by
GraphicConverter and some others of similar ilk.

But you did explain the scrapbook v clipboard relationship better than
I did, so I guess we work as a team? ;-)

Let's hope so... It would be a rather sorry world if a few of us couldn't
agree on at least some issues without going at one another's throats
whenever we don't see eye to eye ;-)

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac

 

[Elliott Roper]

Hello Elliott -

Once again we get enact adversarial roles... On a most congenial basis,
however ;-)




Pedantic? I don't think so... Read on;

If that's the case, perhaps you can enlighten me as to why removing Grab.app
to the Trash OS X screen captures still work the same way. Further, the
keyboard shortcuts for the two methods are totally different & the pointer
appearance/behavior is not the same for the equivalent actions.

Simple. Grab is the GUI for the OS X shortcut's underlying magic. If
one is already running Grab, its shortcuts have precedence.

Additionally, using Grab makes content immediately available to be pasted
without involving the Clipboard, whereas the OS X screen capture methods
work differently.

Nope, the clipboard is the only source for OS X paste
I thought you had that bit right.

Lastly, the OS X methods generate PNGs whereas Grab generates TIFFs.

Strictly it generates a bitmap in the clipboard versions which is then
interpreted by whatever pastes it. See below

Not misleading at all - the point was made clear enough. What I didn't
expand on - since the matter of saving the capture hadn't been mentioned by
the OP - is that the Grab TIFF is a bit sharper than the OS X PNG, although
Grab, admittedly, doesn't offer the editing or format options provided by
GraphicConverter and some others of similar ilk.

as above, it depends on what the pasted-to program prefers, or if you
choose to grab to file or cmd-shift_ctrl-3 there is a magic you can
invoke to change the format saved.
elegantly documented at
http://andytseng.com/?p=68

Let's hope so... It would be a rather sorry world if a few of us couldn't
agree on at least some issues without going at one another's throats
whenever we don't see eye to eye ;-)

Aw I dunno. Makes life interesting.

I bit my 3 year old grandson on the throat and now he calls me
"grandpire"
I have hopes for that kid. He makes worse puns than I do.

 

[CyberTaz]

<snip>

Nope, the clipboard is the only source for OS X paste
I thought you had that bit right.

<snip>

Sorry - tripped over my own tongue... That was intended to be:

"available to be *saved* without involving the Clipboard"

In order to then paste the capture it does of course have to be copied, so
that's where the clipboard comes in. But the initial capture doesn't go
directly to the Clipboard

Regards |:>)
Bob Jones
[MVP] Office:Mac