Search engine search wrong folder.

[Stan Hilliard]

I have an FP2K discussion forum with a search bot that used to search
the messages, but now it searches the pages in the main discussion
subweb folder instead of \disc1sam\ where the messages are.

This started happening after I published the web from a Unix server to
a new provider having a Windows server.

The forum is:
www.samplingplans.com/forum/forum.htm

Hint: when I publish the discussion web back to my PC the search works
properly through the messages.

What could be my problem and what should I do to make the search bot
search the messages on the Windows server?

Information will be appreciated.
Stan Hilliard

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Ask the host or Admin to build a Index Catalog for the specific subweb.

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[Stan Hilliard]

Ask the host or Admin to build a Index Catalog for the specific subweb.

Thanks, I have requested to Geo-Hosting that they build the Index
Catalog.

Would there be a similar reason that the search bot that searches the
main web - not the discussion subweb - shows the wrong dates for the
pages that it finds?

For example, a search for "sample" find many pages and all of their
dates are listed as 3/26/2004 at 13:43. Yet when I look at the dates
on the files with FrontPage, none of them have that date.

Is there something else that the provider should fix regarding the
main web?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Try running Tools | Recalculate Hyperlinks on the live / remote site and see if that updates the
index server, otherwise the host needs to delete and recreate the index catalog.

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[Ronx]

The dates shown by FrontPage are taken from meta data stored by the
extensions. This usually is the last date/time you edited and saved the
page. When you publish (which may be several days later), the meta data on
the server is updated with that last edited date and is displayed by
FrontPage, but the server filesystem date is the server's system date at the
time of publishing. IndexServer will get its timestamp from the file
system - hence the difference. The two timestamps should match if you edit
live on the server, unless there is a time-zone difference when FP will
display your local time, and IndexServer will display the server's local
time.

 

[Stan Hilliard]

The dates shown by FrontPage are taken from meta data stored by the
extensions. This usually is the last date/time you edited and saved the
page. When you publish (which may be several days later), the meta data on
the server is updated with that last edited date and is displayed by
FrontPage, but the server filesystem date is the server's system date at the
time of publishing. IndexServer will get its timestamp from the file
system - hence the difference. The two timestamps should match if you edit
live on the server, unless there is a time-zone difference when FP will
display your local time, and IndexServer will display the server's local
time.
Ron Symonds (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)

After recalculating hyperlinks, the search bot searches the right
folder and finds the messages. However, all of the message shown on
the search-found screen show the date and exact time that the
hyperlinks were recalculated.

Does that mean that I should ask the provider to re-build the Index
Catalog for the specific subweb?

FYI -- When viewed with FrontPage, the message files have their
original posting dates -- going back to 1998.

FYI -- I published the web to my PC and the search-hits show the
date/time of the publishing -- same as in explorer instead of as in
FrontPage.

Q - Since the date mix-up happens on my PC as well as on the server,
is there a way to rebuild the Index Catalog on the PC as an
experiment?

Sincerely, Stan Hilliard
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[Ronx]

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After recalculating hyperlinks, the search bot searches the right
folder and finds the messages. However, all of the message shown on
the search-found screen show the date and exact time that the
hyperlinks were recalculated.

Does that mean that I should ask the provider to re-build the Index
Catalog for the specific subweb?

No. Recalculating hyperlinks rebuilds every page that contains FrontPage
included content - shared borders, include pages, hit counters, substitution
parameters, navigation bars and banners....the list goes on. Rebuilding the
page changes the system file timestamp, and hence the date/time displayed in
the search.

FYI -- When viewed with FrontPage, the message files have their
original posting dates -- going back to 1998.

Timestamp taken from the meta data.

FYI -- I published the web to my PC and the search-hits show the
date/time of the publishing -- same as in explorer instead of as in
FrontPage.

Search (whether Index Server or WAIS) timestamp taken from file system.

Q - Since the date mix-up happens on my PC as well as on the server,
is there a way to rebuild the Index Catalog on the PC as an
experiment?

Recalculating Hyperlinks will rebuild the index for the WAIS search, and
update the catalogue for Index Server.

Rebuilding the catalogue will not change the date disparity - FrontPage will
always use dates from the meta data, IS will always use the file system.

Ron

 

[Stan Hilliard]

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No. Recalculating hyperlinks rebuilds every page that contains FrontPage
included content - shared borders, include pages, hit counters, substitution
parameters, navigation bars and banners....the list goes on. Rebuilding the
page changes the system file timestamp, and hence the date/time displayed in
the search.

Does this mean that there is no way that I can make a FrontPage
searchbot display the timestamp from the meta data in the search
results?

The file system dates in my current search results are not useful to
me. How can I eliminate the date column from the search results?

Stan Hilliard

 

[Ronx]

Does this mean that there is no way that I can make a FrontPage

searchbot display the timestamp from the meta data in the search
results?
Correct

The file system dates in my current search results are not useful to
me. How can I eliminate the date column from the search results?

Right click the search form and choose "search form properties".
On the Search Results tag, clear the "Last time file was changed" checkbox.
click OK