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Message: [QUOTE="bm, post: 6723719"] sorry mmmmark let me clarify: - my .mac account works for sending and receiving. (yes, i have the settings like you say, minus the algorithm). - the problem is sending from an account of my domainname (me@mydomain.org) . using the .mac smpt does not work, nor my isp's smpt. probably, as you say, both my isp and .mac want to stop spam relaying via their smpts. however, my domainname host does not provide smpt claiming most isps prefer that you use the one they (the isp) provide (as my isp did for several years, in fact they would only let you use their smtp). anybody knows help without spending a mountain of money? G [/QUOTE]