Shared .dot files

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We have a shared folder with Word templates which are used by members of staff acoross different floors.
These documents are updated regularly.
However, if someone has the .dot file open or has created a shortcut to it on their desktop then we cannot update the form and get a 'Sharing Violation' message.

Is there any way to find out who has the document open?

Thanks


Paul
paul_dot_beattie_at_dwp_dot_gsi_dot_gov_dot_uk
 
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TF

A shortcut placed on a desktop should not cause a sharing violation: it
should only occur when someone has the document open. The Sys Admin should
be able to log onto the server and view a list of all open files and their
owners.

However, no one should have a template file open. The whole purpose of a
template is to enable everyone to open new documents based on the template,
not to open and use the template.

Perhaps if you would explain what you are trying to share and how, we may be
able to offer a better solution.



: We have a shared folder with Word templates which are used by members of
staff acoross different floors.
: These documents are updated regularly.
: However, if someone has the .dot file open or has created a shortcut to it
on their desktop then we cannot update the form and get a 'Sharing
Violation' message.
:
: Is there any way to find out who has the document open?
:
: Thanks
:
:
: Paul
: paul_dot_beattie_at_dwp_dot_gsi_dot_gov_dot_uk
:
: --
:
 
C

Charles Kenyon

Hi Terry,

In my experience, when a new document based on a template is created, the
template is given an owner file, not just the new document. Likewise, when a
document based on a template is opened, the template is marked as in use.
This doesn't prevent it from being used to create another new document, but
it does keep another user from editing the template.

It is possible that marking the workgroup templates folder as read only for
the user involved will keep this from happening. I haven't checked.
Otherwise, a possibility is a login script that copies/updates the workgroup
templates folder to a personal workgroup templates folder would prevent
this. That is, each user has a personal workgroup templates folder that is
updated when he/she logs in.
 
T

TF

Charles

I agree. I slightly misunderstood the original question. If anyone has a
document opened (based on a particular template) that template won't let you
open it for editing. However, a shortcut on a desktop won't have that
affect.

I wonder why anyone would have a shortcut to a template on their desktop as
that isn't the way to create a new document based on a template!

However, my original advice that the Sys Admin can go to the server and list
the owners of any locking files in order to get them released. If this is a
regular occurrence, it may be worthwhile setting up access to the server
from the Template Editor's computer using Terminal Services log in.

Terry


message : Hi Terry,
:
: In my experience, when a new document based on a template is created, the
: template is given an owner file, not just the new document. Likewise, when
a
: document based on a template is opened, the template is marked as in use.
: This doesn't prevent it from being used to create another new document,
but
: it does keep another user from editing the template.
:
: It is possible that marking the workgroup templates folder as read only
for
: the user involved will keep this from happening. I haven't checked.
: Otherwise, a possibility is a login script that copies/updates the
workgroup
: templates folder to a personal workgroup templates folder would prevent
: this. That is, each user has a personal workgroup templates folder that is
: updated when he/she logs in.
: --
:
: Charles Kenyon
:
: Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word
:
: Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented version of
: Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide) http://addbalance.com/usersguide
:
: See also the MVP FAQ: http://www.mvps.org/word which is awesome!
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: and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
: from my ignorance and your wisdom.
:
: "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: : >A shortcut placed on a desktop should not cause a sharing violation: it
: > should only occur when someone has the document open. The Sys Admin
should
: > be able to log onto the server and view a list of all open files and
their
: > owners.
: >
: > However, no one should have a template file open. The whole purpose of a
: > template is to enable everyone to open new documents based on the
: > template,
: > not to open and use the template.
: >
: > Perhaps if you would explain what you are trying to share and how, we
may
: > be
: > able to offer a better solution.
: >
: > --
: > Terry Farrell - Word MVP
:
: >
: > : > : We have a shared folder with Word templates which are used by members
of
: > staff acoross different floors.
: > : These documents are updated regularly.
: > : However, if someone has the .dot file open or has created a shortcut
to
: > it
: > on their desktop then we cannot update the form and get a 'Sharing
: > Violation' message.
: > :
: > : Is there any way to find out who has the document open?
: > :
: > : Thanks
: > :
: > :
: > : Paul
: > : paul_dot_beattie_at_dwp_dot_gsi_dot_gov_dot_uk
: > :
: > : --
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
 
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Charles Kenyon

I wonder why anyone would have a shortcut to a template on their desktop
as
that isn't the way to create a new document based on a template!

Hi Terry,

A shortcut to a template on the desktop (or in a folder listed in the Start
Menu) is a handy way to create a new document based on a particular template
skipping the File New dialog and, for that matter, from outside of Word.
 

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