Shortcut to "After sending, move to..." (like Eudora's fcc option)???

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n9vjg

I have a "Clients" folder for all client email messages--including
those I send to the clients.

1. I receive an inquiry from them.
2. I move their inquiry from my "In Box" folder to my "Clients" folder.
3. I click "Reply" to answer their question and then go to
Options=After Sending, Move to so my reply will be in the same folder
with their inquiry.
4. I've wasted about 2-4 seconds clicking and selecting the Clients
folder. No big deal, but it is a little annoying.

Here's what I would rather do:

1. I receive an inquiry from them.
2. I move their inquiry from my "In Box" folder to my "Clients" folder.
3. I hold a Cmd/Ctrl or Opt key and click "Reply" to answer their
question. By doing that, my response to the client automatically goes
to the folder in which their inquiry was residing (the Clients folder).

This is something that Eudora has and it can be activated within Eudora
preferences. It's known as "fcc"

Does Entourage 2004 have something like this? If not, wouldn't it be
great? Thanks!
 
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Paul Berkowitz

I have a "Clients" folder for all client email messages--including
those I send to the clients.

1. I receive an inquiry from them.
2. I move their inquiry from my "In Box" folder to my "Clients" folder.
3. I click "Reply" to answer their question and then go to
Options=After Sending, Move to so my reply will be in the same folder
with their inquiry.
4. I've wasted about 2-4 seconds clicking and selecting the Clients
folder. No big deal, but it is a little annoying.

Here's what I would rather do:

1. I receive an inquiry from them.
2. I move their inquiry from my "In Box" folder to my "Clients" folder.
3. I hold a Cmd/Ctrl or Opt key and click "Reply" to answer their
question. By doing that, my response to the client automatically goes
to the folder in which their inquiry was residing (the Clients folder).

This is something that Eudora has and it can be activated within Eudora
preferences. It's known as "fcc"

Does Entourage 2004 have something like this? If not, wouldn't it be
great? Thanks!

Get my "File Reply in Same Folder X" script from

MacScripter.net <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

Also read "About the script menu" in the Entourage Help to see how to give
it a keyboard shortcut. Although you won't be able to use option-Reply
(button) you _will_ be able to use option-control-R, for example (add \ocR)
to the end of the script's name.

The ReadMe says it can only be used for messages stored in local (On My
Computer) folders. But I think that with the latest v11.2 and 11.2.1 of
Entourage it should even work with IMAP folders.

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP MacOffice
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

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PLEASE always state which version of Microsoft Office you are using -
**2004**, X or 2001. It's often impossible to answer your questions
otherwise.
 
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matt neuburg

Mickey Stevens said:
Try Paul Berkowitz's "File Reply in Same Folder" script. Be sure to get the
X" version if you're running Entourage X or 2004.

But this is not what the OP asked for. What the OP wants is a way to
*mark* a reply that you are about to send, so that it will automatically
be moved into the same folder as the message you are replying to.
Unfortunately there is no way to script that feature, so that the thing
the OP is doing manually might happen automatically - this is a big hole
in the scriptability of Entourage. m.
 
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Paul Berkowitz

Matt, my script will still do exactly what he wants, as long as he gets used
to using a keyboard shortcut he chooses rather than using the Send button,
as I described in my own earlier reply to this post. Agreed that you can't
script intercepting the Reply button (people usually want a way to intercept
the Send button, but the idea is similar) which is what he asked for; but
since the OP himself suggested being able to do it by holding down a
modifier key while clicking Reply it's not too much of a stretch to do it
while sending instead.

Technically speaking, you could actually have a keyboard shortcut that runs
a script which loads another script and stores the ID of the message you
want to reply to and the current time (and opens a Reply message), and
enables a schedule that will re-run this second script every 1 minute. With
a stored ID in place this script, when run by the schedule a minute later,
now checks to see if the original message has been replied to since the
stored time; if not it does nothing, but is run again by the schedule a
minute later; if so, it finds the reply and moves it to the same folder as
the original, erases the stored ID (to trigger behavior A for the next time
it's run) and disables the schedule that runs it. It was this sort of Rube
Goldberg setup that I had to use for the Entourage 2001 and OE versions of
the "Same Folder" script, and that I was very glad to be able to get rid of
in the X/2004 version. I'm not going to go that route again for this
workaround, but it could be done. ;-)

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP MacOffice
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

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matt neuburg

Paul Berkowitz said:
Agreed that you can't
script intercepting the Reply button

That's not what I'm saying about. I'm saying that you can (and the OP
does) choose Message > After Sending Move To, but you can't script that
same effect upon a message. You might try using your vast influence with
the Entourage folks to get them to open up this functionality so that it
is scriptable. m.
 
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Paul Berkowitz

That's not what I'm saying about. I'm saying that you can (and the OP
does) choose Message > After Sending Move To, but you can't script that
same effect upon a message. You might try using your vast influence with
the Entourage folks to get them to open up this functionality so that it
is scriptable. m.

Ah, true enough. I already urge MacBU - with such enormous influence as I
may have ;-) - at every opportunity to make _every_ menu item and preference
scriptable. Entourage's AppleScript model has fallen way behind its UI model
in recent versions - it's mostly just caught up to where it ought to have
been (but wasn't) for Entourage 2001, with a few basic new features and
properties. I'd say the request has been met with some degree of sympathetic
ears, so that's something to look forward to.

And nobody much has commented or noticed - neither here nor on AppleScript
Users list - the new AppleScript features in SR 2 (11.2). Although this was
advertised just as an "improved Exchange" upgrade, there's quite a lot of
new AppleScript features too, and not just Exchange account stuff although
that's a big part, involving real, viable calendar and address book classes.
There are also new calendar features, including time zone property of event
and my favorite - 'calculate recurring dates' of recurring events.

Certainly, an 'after sending move to' property of 'draft window' and of
'outgoing message' would be useful. (I don't think a separate such parameter
for 'reply to' command is needed: 'reply to' with 'opening window' true has
a result - a draft window - whose 'after sending move to' property could be
set to any folder. An outgoing message could be given the same property and
then it would work 'without opening window' too.)

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP MacOffice
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

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n9vjg

Nope. Paul's script was just what I needed. It worked just like
Eudora's fcc. Thanks! Is this shareware? It works, but there's no
payment option.
 
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Paul Berkowitz

Nope. Paul's script was just what I needed. It worked just like
Eudora's fcc. Thanks! Is this shareware? It works, but there's no
payment option.

That makes it freeware... (Some freeware actually works ;-)

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP MacOffice
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

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Mickey Stevens

That one is free. Some of Paul's other scripts ("Export-Import Entourage",
"Sync Entourage-Address Book", & "Sync Entourage-iCal", to name a few) are
shareware, but most of them are free.
 

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