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[Silvercode]

I tried to modify the style of contents style 1. But it ended up not
succeeding, and there appeared a tiny piece of blue text into my contents
list instead. I deleted the piece of blue text from my contents and now I am
starting to think that the usability of Word 2007 is bad. Any solutions for
this?

 

[Terry Farrell]

Do you mean TABLE of Contents style 1 (that is TOC1)?

 

[Silvercode]

Do you mean TABLE of Contents style 1 (that is TOC1)?

Yes. This is how it goes (I have Finnish version of Word, so my translations
of button names might not be exact what they are in the English version):

- I open my document
- I scroll to the table of contents
- I right click on the toc and select "Edit field..."
- I see a dialog that has a "Formula..."-button in it. Once it was "Table of
contents", but now it has been "Formula", which I don't like, because I would
like it to be "Table of contents" - I am editing toc after all
- I select "Indexes and lists" from "Categories"-combobox.
- Now I see "Index..."-button, which I click
- I get "Index"-dialog and I click "Customize"-button
- I select "Index 1"-style and click "Customize"-button
- I see style dialog and I select "Font" from "Format"-buttoncombobox
- I see that the style already has "All caps" selected and I click "OK"
- I click "OK"
- I click "OK"
- I click "OK"
- Now it added "Index words not found" in blue text into my toc. I didn't
want extra index, I was editing the style of my current toc

What goes wrong here? Couldn't it be simpler than this? And why can't I edit
these message board posts?

 

[DeanH]

Have you tried to modify the Style (namely TOC1) from the Styles and
Formatting dialog from the Format main menu? Once you have modified the style
remember to refresh the TOC.
Hope this helps
DeanH

 

[Terry Farrell]

As Dean suggests, you need to edit the TOC1 style but clicking in the TOC
and then selecting a TOC1 level, then edit the Style.

But note that if you have MANUALLY edited (directly formatted) the Heading
1s in your document rather than editing the Heading 1 Style, the direct
formatting you applied to the Heading will be reflected in the TOC
overriding the TOC1 style.

So it is important that you edit the styles and avoid all direct formatting.

Terry

 

[Silvercode]

Have you tried to modify the Style (namely TOC1) from the Styles and
Formatting dialog from the Format main menu? Once you have modified the style
remember to refresh the TOC.

I noticed that the styles list doesn't support scroll wheel. Instead the
actual document scrolls. If my mouse is over the list, then the list should
scroll, otherwise the document.

Then the huge tooltips attacked me again, so I am not sure if I want to use
Word 2007 anymore. Open Office doesn't have such annoying tooltips that popup
immediately and take a lot of space.

Also in Word 2007 quick styles, when I hover the mouse pointer over a quick
style in the quick style list, it shows me a preview in the text that is
where my cursor is. This causes the document flicker, because it jumps to the
point of cursor and back. I can stand the preview, but I don't want any
preview if the cursor is not in the currently viewed part of the document.

The toc1 style is not in the styles list, which is ok. But I would like to
select from a combobox that I want to view the toc-styles.

I didn't find the Format main menu. Word 2007 doesn't have normal menus. It
has menutabs. Menutab "Start" has a panel in which there is the quick style
list and "Style"-button. When I click the Style-button, it opens up the
styles list.

But then I tried to edit the toc field again. This time I found
contents-styles too instead of index-styles. When I select "Index", it shows
me a list of accronyms and one of them is "TOC". I didn't notice that before,
because there was all kinds of other wierd accronyms that I am not familiar
with... Now I modified contents style 1, but when I accepted, it deleted all
the entries from my toc.

So now I don't know what to do.

Also, I would like to be able to open the edit dialog for these posts into a
another tab instead of new window. And why there are no quote-boxes in this
forum?

 

[Silvercode]

As Dean suggests, you need to edit the TOC1 style but clicking in the TOC
and then selecting a TOC1 level, then edit the Style.
But note that if you have MANUALLY edited (directly formatted) the Heading
1s in your document rather than editing the Heading 1 Style, the direct
formatting you applied to the Heading will be reflected in the TOC
overriding the TOC1 style.
So it is important that you edit the styles and avoid all direct formatting.

My styles showed ok in the actual text.

Now I removed all formattings and styles from my last heading that didn't
show ok in the toc. Then I reapplied the heading 1 to the last heading and
applied the correct style to the toc again. After that the contents appeared
and the toc looks fine this time.

I don't know what happened, but I think using styles and tocs is just too
complicated and unusable.

 

[Terry Farrell]

I don't see anything complex about this. The Heading is one style and the
TOC is another style. If they were both the same style, at least a million
users would complain that they cannot change the style of the TOC.

So the styles in the TOC are exclusive from the style of the headings. It
just makes sense.

But moving the TOC option from the INSERT menu to the References Menu in
Word 2007 seems a bit illogical to me. But if you modify your QAT adding the
Insert Table of Contents command, you will open the legacy TOC dialog. This
dialog has a MODIFY button then gives you direct access to the TOC level
styles so that you can change them from one place. To me the legacy dialog
makes sense: putting a different option on the Reference ribbon makes no
sense.

Terry