Site is extreemly slow

[Meg B]

I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow it got
through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly extreemly
slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do about that.
I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed them all and got
my website down to a total of 17 MB.
Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really not that
HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable with my host).
Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

 

[Meg B]

No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow it got
through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly
extreemly
slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do about that.
I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed them all and got
my website down to a total of 17 MB.
Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really not that
HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable with my
host).
Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?

 

[JoAnn Paules [MVP]]

Post a link. Maybe someone will be able to help you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow it got
through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly
extreemly
slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do about
that.
I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed them all and
got
my website down to a total of 17 MB.
Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really not
that
HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable with my
host).
Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?

 

[Meg B]

www.mesa-materials.com

Post a link. Maybe someone will be able to help you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow it got
through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly
extreemly
slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do about
that.
I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed them all and
got
my website down to a total of 17 MB.
Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really not
that
HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable with my
host).
Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?

 

[DavidF]

Meg,

I am not sure what you did, but your home page is about 15.5 megs, so it is
little wonder it is slow loading. In fact I can't even view the source code.
Its total size shouldn't be even 300 kb or so.

I read your other thread, and you said that you compressed the images. I
would suggest that you use an image editing program such as Adobe Photoshop
Elements to reduce the size your JPG and GIF images (you are using JPG and
GIFs right?) to about the pixel width and size of the image boxes on your
Publisher page, and then also optimize them for the web. Looking at only the
home page there appears to be only three images other than the banner image.
You should be able to reduce the file size of the images to 20 to 40kb at
the most. If you don't have an image editing application, you can download
Irfanview at http://www.irfanview.com/ or Picasa:
http://picasa.google.com/index.html . Both are free, and though you won't be
able to optimize your images as well as in Elements, you can do a lot.

After you have reduced and optimized your images, then insert those images
into your pages. Then Compress the images via Publisher.

Then go to Tools > Options > Web tab and untick Rely on VML... and untick
Allow PNG... OK.

Then run the design checker to see if you can find other issues. Do a web
site preview. If you are publishing to your hard drive and FTP publishing,
delete the existing files, and delete the html files on your website, and
republish your site.

After you have taken these steps, post back with your results and any other
issues.

DavidF

www.mesa-materials.com

Post a link. Maybe someone will be able to help you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.

:

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow it got
through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly
extreemly
slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do about
that.
I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed them all and
got
my website down to a total of 17 MB.
Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really not
that
HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable with my
host).
Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?

 

[DavidF]

Meg,

I also noticed after sending my first post that your pages are way too wide.
Reset the width to a maximum of 800 pixels and probably use the default wide
size (706 pixels). The width of your pages is surely contributing to your
problems.

DavidF

www.mesa-materials.com

Post a link. Maybe someone will be able to help you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]

No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.

:

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow it got
through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly
extreemly
slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do about
that.
I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed them all and
got
my website down to a total of 17 MB.
Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really not
that
HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable with my
host).
Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?

 

[DavidF]

The default wide size is 760 pixels, not 706. Darn fingers.

DavidF

Meg,

I also noticed after sending my first post that your pages are way too wide.
Reset the width to a maximum of 800 pixels and probably use the default wide
size (706 pixels). The width of your pages is surely contributing to your
problems.

DavidF

www.mesa-materials.com

Post a link. Maybe someone will be able to help you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.

:

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow

it

got

all

and

with

my

 

[Rob Giordano \(Crash\)]

holy cow...an 18 MEG home page....3 minutes to download on a vdsl
connection.

dunno but I'm gonna guess your images are humongous files or something.


| www.mesa-materials.com
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| "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
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| > Post a link. Maybe someone will be able to help you.
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| > JoAnn Paules
| > MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| >
| >
| >
| > | > > No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.
| > >
| > > "JoAnn Paules [MVP]" wrote:
| > >
| > >> Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't
huge -
| > >> IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)
| > >>
| > >> --
| > >>
| > >> JoAnn Paules
| > >> MVP Microsoft [Publisher]
| > >>
| > >>
| > >>
| > >> | > >> >I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow it
got
| > >> > through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly
| > >> > extreemly
| > >> > slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do about
| > >> > that.
| > >> > I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed them all
and
| > >> > got
| > >> > my website down to a total of 17 MB.
| > >> > Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really
not
| > >> > that
| > >> > HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable with
my
| > >> > host).
| > >> > Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?
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| >
| >
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[Meg B]

Ok, so far I downsized my pages to 760 pix. and adjusted everything within
the frames.
Yes I am using JPG on all my pictures. The problem I have is that I loose so
much quality in my pictures every time I mess around with them. I havent used
Adobe Photoshop Elements and I don't know if its some sort of a miracle cure
to the problems that I have when I compress or change the pictures in these
free download programs.
The worse my pictures are, the better off I am at not having a website
because really that's almost everything that this website is about... I
should have just paid somebody!

The default wide size is 760 pixels, not 706. Darn fingers.

DavidF

Meg,

I also noticed after sending my first post that your pages are way too wide.
Reset the width to a maximum of 800 pixels and probably use the default wide
size (706 pixels). The width of your pages is surely contributing to your
problems.

DavidF

www.mesa-materials.com

:

Post a link. Maybe someone will be able to help you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.

:

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow

it

got
through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly
extreemly
slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do about
that.
I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed them

all

and
got
my website down to a total of 17 MB.
Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really not
that
HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable

with

my
host).
Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?

 

[DavidF]

Hi Meg,

I appreciate your frustration, and there have been times I wished I had
never started building my own site. I had no idea how much was involved, and
how different it would be than desktop publishing. With that said, I
wouldn't give up now.

Your main issue with publishing your site and with it then loading so slowly
in a browser does seem to be associated with your image sizes. And yes,
learning how to resample, reduce the size and optimize your images for the
web is a bit of a challenge, but is essential, especially when you design a
site that is dependent upon those images.

It isn't that hard to edit images. While Photoshop Elements is a great
program for the price, and makes the job of optimizing images a bit easier,
it isn't that hard in Irfanview. Download and install it, and read the
instructions under Help for resizing and/or resampling pictures. The basic
process is then to go to File > Open and browse to and open the image that
you want to edit. Then go to Image > Resize/Resample and you will see a
dialogue window. Then look at the size of the picture box on your Publisher
document, and if you need say a picture that is about 280 pixels wide, then
under Set New Size type in 280 in the width and the length will
automatically reduce proportionally if you have the Preserve aspect ratio
box checked. You do not need to be exact, but try to stay within 10% of the
final size you want to use in Publisher. So resizing the picture to 300
pixels wide and then reducing the size of the picture box in Publisher will
work just fine, but I would avoid making it much bigger or you will end up
with distorted images. Click OK and the picture will resize. At the bottom
you will see how much the image has been reduced. I just did a sample where
the original was 1.81 MB and it reduced to 172 KB, which is still too large
in my opinion. But then when you go to Save As and choose to save as a JPG,
a JPEG/GIF Save Options dialogue window appears. Under quality, slide it to
about 50, and save. I usually save the file under the same name with the
width, such as 'image.jpg' as 'image-280.jpg' so I can easily discern which
one I want to insert into Publisher later. The result is a 280 pixel wide
image that has been reduced from 1.81 MB to 14 KB...which one do you think
will load faster?

You can experiment around with Size method on the Resize/Resample image
dialogue box and then the quality on the Save Options dialogue window until
you get an image that both is small in size, but still looks good to you
after inserting into your Pub file. Once you figure these settings out for
one picture, it is easy to do others as the only thing you vary is the width
of the picture.

Now, lesson over, and your homework is to resize and resample the images on
your website, and get the new, improved fast loading pages uploaded <grin>.
Good luck.

DavidF

Ok, so far I downsized my pages to 760 pix. and adjusted everything within
the frames.
Yes I am using JPG on all my pictures. The problem I have is that I loose so
much quality in my pictures every time I mess around with them. I havent used
Adobe Photoshop Elements and I don't know if its some sort of a miracle cure
to the problems that I have when I compress or change the pictures in these
free download programs.
The worse my pictures are, the better off I am at not having a website
because really that's almost everything that this website is about... I
should have just paid somebody!

The default wide size is 760 pixels, not 706. Darn fingers.

DavidF

Meg,

I also noticed after sending my first post that your pages are way too wide.
Reset the width to a maximum of 800 pixels and probably use the

default
wide

size (706 pixels). The width of your pages is surely contributing to your
problems.

DavidF

www.mesa-materials.com

:

Post a link. Maybe someone will be able to help you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.

:

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't
huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I was having several problems getting my site published.

Somehow
it

got
through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly
extreemly
slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do about
that.
I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed

them
all

and
got
my website down to a total of 17 MB.
Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really
not
that
HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable with
my
host).
Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?

 

[DavidF]

Meg,

After spending a lot of time writing my last post, I had some second
thoughts. You may not need to resize and resample your images. I suspect
that you did not use the "compress pictures" option correctly, because if
you did, you would not have ended up with a page that was 15.5 megs.

To test this, go to the file on your computer where you published your site.
Right click, properties and note the total size of the file. Then open your
Pub file, and select an image on each page, and when you choose the compress
pictures option, choose ALL pictures. Then publish your site again to
another folder on your computer, right click it and compare the size. It
should be significantly smaller.

Bottom line is that the compress pictures feature should "resize and
resample" for you. And even though the results probably won't be as good as
if you resampled and optimized each image in Irfanview, it should be
adequate and would save you a lot of time.

Let us know....

DavidF

Hi Meg,

I appreciate your frustration, and there have been times I wished I had
never started building my own site. I had no idea how much was involved, and
how different it would be than desktop publishing. With that said, I
wouldn't give up now.

Your main issue with publishing your site and with it then loading so slowly
in a browser does seem to be associated with your image sizes. And yes,
learning how to resample, reduce the size and optimize your images for the
web is a bit of a challenge, but is essential, especially when you design a
site that is dependent upon those images.

It isn't that hard to edit images. While Photoshop Elements is a great
program for the price, and makes the job of optimizing images a bit easier,
it isn't that hard in Irfanview. Download and install it, and read the
instructions under Help for resizing and/or resampling pictures. The basic
process is then to go to File > Open and browse to and open the image that
you want to edit. Then go to Image > Resize/Resample and you will see a
dialogue window. Then look at the size of the picture box on your Publisher
document, and if you need say a picture that is about 280 pixels wide, then
under Set New Size type in 280 in the width and the length will
automatically reduce proportionally if you have the Preserve aspect ratio
box checked. You do not need to be exact, but try to stay within 10% of the
final size you want to use in Publisher. So resizing the picture to 300
pixels wide and then reducing the size of the picture box in Publisher will
work just fine, but I would avoid making it much bigger or you will end up
with distorted images. Click OK and the picture will resize. At the bottom
you will see how much the image has been reduced. I just did a sample where
the original was 1.81 MB and it reduced to 172 KB, which is still too large
in my opinion. But then when you go to Save As and choose to save as a JPG,
a JPEG/GIF Save Options dialogue window appears. Under quality, slide it to
about 50, and save. I usually save the file under the same name with the
width, such as 'image.jpg' as 'image-280.jpg' so I can easily discern which
one I want to insert into Publisher later. The result is a 280 pixel wide
image that has been reduced from 1.81 MB to 14 KB...which one do you think
will load faster?

You can experiment around with Size method on the Resize/Resample image
dialogue box and then the quality on the Save Options dialogue window until
you get an image that both is small in size, but still looks good to you
after inserting into your Pub file. Once you figure these settings out for
one picture, it is easy to do others as the only thing you vary is the width
of the picture.

Now, lesson over, and your homework is to resize and resample the images on
your website, and get the new, improved fast loading pages uploaded

Good luck.

DavidF

Ok, so far I downsized my pages to 760 pix. and adjusted everything within
the frames.
Yes I am using JPG on all my pictures. The problem I have is that I

loose

so
much quality in my pictures every time I mess around with them. I havent used
Adobe Photoshop Elements and I don't know if its some sort of a miracle cure
to the problems that I have when I compress or change the pictures in these
free download programs.
The worse my pictures are, the better off I am at not having a website
because really that's almost everything that this website is about... I
should have just paid somebody!

The default wide size is 760 pixels, not 706. Darn fingers.

DavidF

Meg,

I also noticed after sending my first post that your pages are way too
wide.
Reset the width to a maximum of 800 pixels and probably use the default
wide
size (706 pixels). The width of your pages is surely contributing to your
problems.

DavidF

www.mesa-materials.com

:

Post a link. Maybe someone will be able to help you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.

:

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't
huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow
it
got
through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly
extreemly
slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do
about
that.
I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed them
all
and
got
my website down to a total of 17 MB.
Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really
not
that
HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable
with
my
host).
Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?

 

[Meg B]

Hey David,
First of all I'd like to say a big thanks for your patience and encouraging
reply.
I have another image adjutster program - just another freeby like Irfanview.
So I had already used that on many of pictures. And so the other day I loaded
up Irfanview to see if I would get better quality... No such luck.
So this is sort of taking me double time because not only do I need to
downsize them but then I take them into another image editing program to
enhance some of the color thats lost. We are a stone supplier and if the
stone ends up looking dull and boring - then you get the idea. It's too bad
there just so much loss on quality.
But yes, on Irfanview I did use the resize option that worked ok.
I also used the compression option just had you mentioned below on
publisher--and still not to a great significance. So I'm going to have to
handle each of these pictures seperatly.
I enjoy a good challenge and this website has definatly been that lately.
I'm still working on my basic understanding of the whole publishing aspect.

Meg,

After spending a lot of time writing my last post, I had some second
thoughts. You may not need to resize and resample your images. I suspect
that you did not use the "compress pictures" option correctly, because if
you did, you would not have ended up with a page that was 15.5 megs.

To test this, go to the file on your computer where you published your site.
Right click, properties and note the total size of the file. Then open your
Pub file, and select an image on each page, and when you choose the compress
pictures option, choose ALL pictures. Then publish your site again to
another folder on your computer, right click it and compare the size. It
should be significantly smaller.

Bottom line is that the compress pictures feature should "resize and
resample" for you. And even though the results probably won't be as good as
if you resampled and optimized each image in Irfanview, it should be
adequate and would save you a lot of time.

Let us know....

DavidF

Hi Meg,

I appreciate your frustration, and there have been times I wished I had
never started building my own site. I had no idea how much was involved, and
how different it would be than desktop publishing. With that said, I
wouldn't give up now.

Your main issue with publishing your site and with it then loading so slowly
in a browser does seem to be associated with your image sizes. And yes,
learning how to resample, reduce the size and optimize your images for the
web is a bit of a challenge, but is essential, especially when you design a
site that is dependent upon those images.

It isn't that hard to edit images. While Photoshop Elements is a great
program for the price, and makes the job of optimizing images a bit easier,
it isn't that hard in Irfanview. Download and install it, and read the
instructions under Help for resizing and/or resampling pictures. The basic
process is then to go to File > Open and browse to and open the image that
you want to edit. Then go to Image > Resize/Resample and you will see a
dialogue window. Then look at the size of the picture box on your Publisher
document, and if you need say a picture that is about 280 pixels wide, then
under Set New Size type in 280 in the width and the length will
automatically reduce proportionally if you have the Preserve aspect ratio
box checked. You do not need to be exact, but try to stay within 10% of the
final size you want to use in Publisher. So resizing the picture to 300
pixels wide and then reducing the size of the picture box in Publisher will
work just fine, but I would avoid making it much bigger or you will end up
with distorted images. Click OK and the picture will resize. At the bottom
you will see how much the image has been reduced. I just did a sample where
the original was 1.81 MB and it reduced to 172 KB, which is still too large
in my opinion. But then when you go to Save As and choose to save as a JPG,
a JPEG/GIF Save Options dialogue window appears. Under quality, slide it to
about 50, and save. I usually save the file under the same name with the
width, such as 'image.jpg' as 'image-280.jpg' so I can easily discern which
one I want to insert into Publisher later. The result is a 280 pixel wide
image that has been reduced from 1.81 MB to 14 KB...which one do you think
will load faster?

You can experiment around with Size method on the Resize/Resample image
dialogue box and then the quality on the Save Options dialogue window until
you get an image that both is small in size, but still looks good to you
after inserting into your Pub file. Once you figure these settings out for
one picture, it is easy to do others as the only thing you vary is the width
of the picture.

Now, lesson over, and your homework is to resize and resample the images on
your website, and get the new, improved fast loading pages uploaded

Good luck.

DavidF

Ok, so far I downsized my pages to 760 pix. and adjusted everything within
the frames.
Yes I am using JPG on all my pictures. The problem I have is that I

loose

so
much quality in my pictures every time I mess around with them. I havent used
Adobe Photoshop Elements and I don't know if its some sort of a miracle cure
to the problems that I have when I compress or change the pictures in these
free download programs.
The worse my pictures are, the better off I am at not having a website
because really that's almost everything that this website is about... I
should have just paid somebody!

:

The default wide size is 760 pixels, not 706. Darn fingers.

DavidF

Meg,

I also noticed after sending my first post that your pages are way too
wide.
Reset the width to a maximum of 800 pixels and probably use the default
wide
size (706 pixels). The width of your pages is surely contributing to your
problems.

DavidF

www.mesa-materials.com

:

Post a link. Maybe someone will be able to help you.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



No... I have 21 pages to my website - not one.

:

Do you mean that one page is 17 MB? I gotta tell you - that isn't
huge -
IT'S GI-NORMOUS!! (Translation: Awfully friggin' big.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]



I was having several problems getting my site published. Somehow
it
got
through though and it's now up for viewing. The site is extreemly
extreemly
slow loading and I need to see if there is something I can do
about
that.
I have several pictures on the site and I have compressed them
all
and
got
my website down to a total of 17 MB.
Does anyone see a reason why it would be so slow and it's really
not
that
HUGE of a website (considering the space that I have avaiable
with
my
host).
Can anyone give suggestions to speed up the loading process?