Sites created with Publisher

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Kelsey13

Hi,

I have kinda of a weird question. We reformatted and reinstalled WIN XP on
our laptop and now for some reason when viewing (only on this laptop) the
websites we created in Publisher there are no navigation buttons. So we can
only see the homepage and none of the pages. I double checked this on our
desktop computer and the buttons are on there and I can navigate through the
site with no problems. I think something did not reinstall and I was hoping
maybe someone here could assist me.
Thanks,
 
D

DavidF

Which version of Publisher? Which browser are you using and which version?
What is the URL to the site.

DavidF
 
K

Kelsey13

Hi David,

I am using Publisher 2007 and the brower I am using is IE8 and the website
is www.cayugamotorsports.ca Also as a side note I just finished wiping out
the harddrive over the weekend and reinstalled the OS which is Win XP. I
have found a few bugs with the system and seem to be missing something, could
be in the registry, but I am not 100% sure.

Thanks,
Kelly
 
D

DavidF

Kelly,

I suspect that if you check the other computer is running IE7, and your site
looks fine with that browser. The reason why you can't see the navbar
buttons on the other computer is because of IE8.

IE8 is designed to render webpages in a more 'standards code compliant' mode
than any previous version. In general, many websites built by many different
programs including Publisher do not produce 'standards compliant code' and
have 'compatibility' issues in IE8. If you care to read more about the
details of these general statements here are two articles:

Reference: Release Notes for Internet Explorer 8: Compatibility issues with
websites:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/dd441788.aspx

Reference: MSDN IEBlog:Just The Facts: Recap of Compatibility View:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2009/02/16/just-the-facts-recap-of-compatibility-view.aspx

Unfortunately this is the price of progress, but luckily the only
compatibility issues with Publisher 2003 and 2007 and IE8 RTW reported thus
far are problems associated with 'grouping'. Any design elements that are
'grouped' together, which includes the Publisher wizard built navbars, do
not render when you view the web page in IE8. The fix in general is to
ungroup the elements. I have found no problems with Publisher 2000 webs.
While I am optimistic that MSFT will soon provide a patch that will fix
these issues in at least Pub 2007, there is a *fix* you can use in the
meantime.

In your case I would suggest that you open your original Publisher file and
go to File > Save As and save a copy of your Pub file under a different
name. Now working with the new copy of your Pub file go to Edit > Select All
Arrange > Ungroup. This will ungroup the text boxes and images that
compose the Publisher built navbars along with any other design elements
that might be grouped together on the page. Now the navbar and the rest of
the page should render correctly when you do a web page preview. Repeat this
with each page in your publication. 'Publish to the Web' from this copy of
your publication, upload those files and they will render correctly in IE8.
If you want to make changes in your web in the future go back to your
original Pub file, make the changes, save, and again do a 'Save As' to make
a copy, etc.

The reason I suggest making a copy of your original Pub file and doing the
'ungrouping' on that copy is that when you ungroup the navbar, you will also
ungroup it from the Publisher navbar wizard. This means that if you want to
add a page in the future the navbar will not be automatically updated and
that change propagated throughout the site.You would have to rebuild the
navbar under those circumstances.

If you don't plan on adding any more pages to your site in the near future,
then making a copy and doing the ungrouping on that copy in order to
preserve the navbar wizard would not be necessary. Furthermore you could
also do the ungrouping on the original Pub file, produce your new web pages,
and then close the original Pub file without saving the changes. I just
think that perhaps making a copy is a bit safer, but that is up to you.

While this *fix* is a bit of a pain, hopefully it will be temporary. If you
find any other compatibility issues with your pages and IE8, I would
appreciate it if you would post back and tell me what specifically isn't
working, and provide a link to the page where I can find it. Thanks.

DavidF
 
N

neumaaarts

Hi,
I have a similar question to Kelsey13. I created 3 websites for clients
with Pub 2003. Only the home pages can be seen. And, the page links are
only functional in MIE browsers. In Mozilla and other browsers the links are
not functional. I even tried to upload a site in Frontpage to no avail.
HELP!!!!
 
D

DavidF

If you fix your site such that it works with both IE7 and FF3, then it will
be cross browser compatible in most
browsers, so I would start there. Then there is one more fix that is needed
to get the navbars to render correctly in IE8. So, post the links to one or
more of your websites and we will help you fix the cross browser issues.

In the meantime I will also post my evolving boilerplate answer about the
navbars and IE8, as the 'grouping' issue that affects the navbars, also
affects links in text boxes in FF, and in ungrouping the whole page, you
might fix that issue.

--------------

IE8 is designed to render webpages in a more 'standards
code compliant' mode than any previous version. In general, many websites
built by many different programs including Publisher do not produce
'standards compliant code' and have 'compatibility' issues in IE8. If you
care to read more about the details of these general statements here are two
articles:

Reference: Release Notes for Internet Explorer 8: Compatibility issues with
websites:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/dd441788.aspx

Reference: MSDN IEBlog:Just The Facts: Recap of Compatibility View:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2009/02/16/just-the-facts-recap-of-compatibility-view.aspx

Unfortunately this is the price of progress, but luckily the only
compatibility issues with Publisher 2003 and 2007 and IE8 RTW reported thus
far are problems associated with 'grouping'. Any design elements that are
'grouped' together, which includes the Publisher wizard built navbars, do
not render when you view the web page in IE8. The fix in general is to
ungroup the elements. I have found no problems with Publisher 2000 webs that
are produced at the IE3+ settings. While I am hopeful that MSFT will soon
provide a patch that will fix these issues in at least Pub 2007, there are a
couple 'fixes' you can use in the meantime.

I would suggest that you open your original Publisher file and go to File >
Save As and save a copy of your Pub file under a different name. Now working
with the new copy of your Pub file go to Edit > Select All > Arrange >
Ungroup. This will ungroup the text boxes and images that compose the
Publisher built navbars along with any other design elements that might be
grouped together on the page. Now the navbar and the rest of the page should
render correctly when you do a web page preview. Repeat this with each page
in your publication. 'Publish to the Web' from this copy of your
publication, upload those files and they will render correctly in IE8. If
you want to make changes in your web in the future go back to your original
Pub file, make the changes, save, and again do a 'Save As' to make a copy,
etc.

The reason I suggest making a copy of your original Pub file and doing the
'ungrouping' on that copy is that when you ungroup the navbar, you will also
ungroup it from the Publisher navbar wizard. This means that if you want to
add a page in the future the navbar will not be automatically updated and
that change propagated throughout the site.You would have to rebuild the
navbar under those circumstances or manually edit the old one.

If you don't plan on adding any more pages to your site in the near future,
then making a copy and doing the ungrouping on that copy in order to
preserve the navbar wizard would not be necessary. Furthermore you could
also do the ungrouping on the original Pub file, produce your new web pages,
and then close the original Pub file without saving the changes. I just
think that perhaps making a copy is a bit safer, but that is up to you.

While this *fix* is a bit of a pain, hopefully it will be temporary. If you
find any other compatibility issues with your pages and IE8, I would
appreciate it if you would post that information in the web group and tell
us what specifically isn't working, and provide a link to the page where we
can find it.

DavidF
 

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