Snow Leopard & Me (veers off main topic)

[MC]

So far so good. I ran Disk Utility and Yasu before installing Snow
Leopard. All went well and I apparently gained an enormous amount of
disk space - went from 55G available to 117G. It's fast and stable.

I backed up all my customizations - Normal, Apple Scripts, Entourage
addresses etc - just in case then - uninstalled my previous version of
Office. Reinstalled Office. The install was quick and easy. Everything
is up and running exactly as I want it.

Here's what doesn't work:



Under OSX:

Fruitmenu - needs an update from Unsanity

iClock - I can open the prefs but so far I can¹t get it to appear on the
menu

Disk Utility !!!!!!!!! This is weird. I'm going to try a start from the
CD and do it from there. In the meantime, Yasu is working (much faster
than before) and does repair permissions.



In Office:

It won't let me install the 12.2.1 update - I'm going to try 12.2.0

 

[MC]

So far so good. I ran Disk Utility and Yasu before installing Snow
Leopard. All went well and I apparently gained an enormous amount of
disk space - went from 55G available to 117G. It's fast and stable.

I backed up all my customizations - Normal, Apple Scripts, Entourage
addresses etc - just in case then - uninstalled my previous version of
Office. Reinstalled Office. The install was quick and easy. Everything
is up and running exactly as I want it.

Here's what doesn't work:



Under OSX:

Fruitmenu - needs an update from Unsanity

iClock - I can open the prefs but so far I can¹t get it to appear on the
menu

Disk Utility !!!!!!!!! This is weird. I'm going to try a start from the
CD and do it from there. In the meantime, Yasu is working (much faster
than before) and does repair permissions.



In Office:

It won't let me install the 12.2.1 update - I'm going to try 12.2.0

Update: 12.2.1 worked after I installed 12.2.0

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Matt:

Good: You're good to go then.

Yes, 12.2.1 is a "patch" that requires 12.2.0 to be in place to work.
12.2.0 is a "Service Pack" which will apply stand-alone.

I do wish Microsoft would clearly identify these and explain the difference.

There was no need to remove your previous version of Office, and in fact it
would have worked better if you hadn't.

You don't mention running FontBook to resolve the duplicates: if you haven't
done so, you should do that, otherwise OS 10.6 may duplicate some of the
Microsoft fonts and give you conflicts.

Cheers

Update: 12.2.1 worked after I installed 12.2.0

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[MC]

Yes... I did do the FontBook trick.

And...

I discovered the reason that Disk Utility didn't work was that I had two
copies of it -- I'd moved it from the Utilities folder to the
Applications folder to get at it more easily, and of course Snow Leopard
installed a new one in Utilities.

The rest of the tweaks were and will be minor.

I had to update iClock. I'm waiting for 10.6-compatible updates to
FruitMenu (SOON please!) and FinderPop. I also had to rebuild the
Entourage database.

The thing I can¹t get over is just how much disk space I've reclaimed. I
was expecting 6-7 Gigs, and I actually got about 50 Gigs. No idea how or
why.

Everything else is working perfectly, and faster.

I suspect the reason others are reporting problems is due to a lack of
disk maintenance before installing.

 

[Clive Huggan]

Thanks, Matthew -- this is all good stuff, and worth veering for! ;-)

Clive
=====

 

[John McGhie]

Hi Matt:

Yes, I agree. Corentin put me onto the idea of running OnyX (free download
from Apple) before upgrading. It makes a big difference.

Most of the disk space you reclaimed would have come from your Library
(Preferences) folder. A system that has been in use for a few years can
collect a LOT of junk in there

While you are waiting for iClock, right-click the Menu Bar clock in OS 10.6.
There are extra options there now: you may not need iClock.

Hope this helps

Yes... I did do the FontBook trick.

And...

I discovered the reason that Disk Utility didn't work was that I had two
copies of it -- I'd moved it from the Utilities folder to the
Applications folder to get at it more easily, and of course Snow Leopard
installed a new one in Utilities.

The rest of the tweaks were and will be minor.

I had to update iClock. I'm waiting for 10.6-compatible updates to
FruitMenu (SOON please!) and FinderPop. I also had to rebuild the
Entourage database.

The thing I can¹t get over is just how much disk space I've reclaimed. I
was expecting 6-7 Gigs, and I actually got about 50 Gigs. No idea how or
why.

Everything else is working perfectly, and faster.

I suspect the reason others are reporting problems is due to a lack of
disk maintenance before installing.

This email is my business email -- Please do not email me about forum
matters unless you intend to pay!

--

John McGhie, Microsoft MVP (Word, Mac Word), Consultant Technical Writer,
McGhie Information Engineering Pty Ltd
Sydney, Australia. | Ph: +61 (0)4 1209 1410
+61 4 1209 1410, mailto:[email protected]

 

[Diane Ross]

While you are waiting for iClock, right-click the Menu Bar clock in OS 10.6.
There are extra options there now: you may not need iClock.

You can also get the free iStat Menus to display time plus some other handy
functions like monitoring CPU, battery, sensors, memory etc.

<http://www.islayer.com/help/istatmenus/gettingstarted/>

 

[MC]

Thanks, Matthew -- this is all good stuff, and worth veering for! ;-)

One more veer, though peripherally connected toWord, since most of us
print our words from time to time.

My Epson printer flashed the out of ink warning, so I went through the
necessary steps - and discovered to my surprise that the printer
interface had changed a lot under Snow Leopard.

It used to look dowdy and flat - almost like something from System 9. It
now looks very snazzy, 3-dimensional and designy.

And then it informed me that I needed to clean the heads. Which I did.

And then the printer DIED! I'm guessing it was heartbroken at the loss
of its old, familiar interface.

And yes, it really did die. I spent a long time Googling (and finding)
what's wrong with it. It's not worth fixing.

 

[Phillip Jones, C.E.T.]

It may not necessarily be dead Click on Systems Update. Yes you heard
right. X.6 now check for printer upgrades and installs them through
systems update. If Not on list of updates. on the snow Leopard DVD is a
list of print Drivers from Cups and another outfit They are similar to
the generic drivers the SANE project puts out for Scanners that don't
have a Driver on OS X. I have the sinking feeling that my old reliable
HP DJ 990cse will be one of those abandoned Printer when I get the cash
together to update my Computers.

 

[Michelle]

You might not have actually gained as much as it looks. Snow Leopard
calculates space differently now. Here's another forum discussing
this issue:

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?p=1473456

Yes... I did do the FontBook trick.

And...

I discovered the reason that Disk Utility didn't work was that I had two
copies of it -- I'd moved it from the Utilities folder to the
Applications folder to get at it more easily, and of course Snow Leopard
installed a new one in Utilities.

The rest of the tweaks were and will be minor.

I had to update iClock. I'm waiting for 10.6-compatible updates to
FruitMenu (SOON please!) and FinderPop. I also had to rebuild the
Entourage database.

The thing I can¹t get over is just how much disk space I've reclaimed. I
was expecting 6-7 Gigs, and I actually got about 50 Gigs. No idea how or
why.

Everything else is working perfectly, and faster.

I suspect the reason others are reporting problems is due to  a lack of
disk maintenance before installing.

Hi Matt:

Good:  You're good to go then.

Yes, 12.2.1 is a "patch" that requires 12.2.0 to be in place to work.
12.2.0 is a "Service Pack" which will apply stand-alone.

I do wish Microsoft would clearly identify these and explain the difference.

There was no need to remove your previous version of Office, and in fact it
would have worked better if you hadn't.

You don't mention running FontBook to resolve the duplicates: if you haven't
done so, you should do that, otherwise OS 10.6 may duplicate some of the
Microsoft fonts and give you conflicts.

Cheers

On 5/09/09 6:54 AM, in article
(e-mail address removed)-september.org, "MC"

 

[MC]

It really has nothing to do with Snow Leopard. I've printed as usual
since the upgrade - and a second, identical, printer is working fine
under SL. It's just coincidence that it happened now...

 

[MC]

You might not have actually gained as much as it looks. Snow Leopard
calculates space differently now. Here's another forum discussing
this issue:

http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?p=1473456

Yes, since I posted I have seen this issue discussed, but even so it
does seem that I have reclaimed FAR more than the expected 7 gigs.

 

[Daniel Cohen]

on the snow Leopard DVD is a
list of print Drivers from Cups and another outfit They are similar to
the generic drivers the SANE project puts out for Scanners that don't
have a Driver on OS X. I have the sinking feeling that my old reliable
HP DJ 990cse will be one of those abandoned Printer when I get the cash
together to update my Computers.

I believe this one is listed by HP as not supported and with no plans to
support it.

If you don't find the Gutenprint drivers provided on the SL disk
satisfactory (on my HP980cxi they lacked some functions). there are two
solutions. One is to use the hpijs drivers.

The other, which I think is the best, is to install the drivers from
your Leopard disk - before installing go to the Print and Fax preference
pane, select your printer, and right click on it and Reset Printing
System. You could then install an update to those from HP.

You will need to print in 32-bit mode, either by quitting the program
and reopening it in 32-bit mode, or by Saving as PDF in the print dialog
box, and then using a program in 32-bit mode to print the PDF. You could
even have two copies of Preview, one in 64-bit mode and the other
permanently in 32-bit mode and use the latter for printing.

Apple and HP do not support this solution, but it seems to work fine.
The same solution should work for printers from any manufacturer.

 

[Phillip Jones, C.E.T.]

The last time I had to update to a new computer that used PowerPC as
opposed to he old Motorola Chips. I went through this same thing. I had
to give away a perfectly good Printer DJ650C which as far as I know
still works with windows to get this DJ990cse. I figure I'll have to do
so again. I may decide to upgrade the printer first so That I don't have
to do both at one whack. Plus I need to update my scanner as well from a
UMax which refuses to make a OSX Twain Driver. Possibly to a Fujitsu
which has the absolute best support for Mac Twain Driver.

 

[MC]

I believe this one is listed by HP as not supported and with no plans to
support it.

If you don't find the Gutenprint drivers provided on the SL disk
satisfactory (on my HP980cxi they lacked some functions). there are two
solutions. One is to use the hpijs drivers.

The other, which I think is the best, is to install the drivers from
your Leopard disk - before installing go to the Print and Fax preference
pane, select your printer, and right click on it and Reset Printing
System. You could then install an update to those from HP.

You will need to print in 32-bit mode, either by quitting the program
and reopening it in 32-bit mode, or by Saving as PDF in the print dialog
box, and then using a program in 32-bit mode to print the PDF. You could
even have two copies of Preview, one in 64-bit mode and the other
permanently in 32-bit mode and use the latter for printing.

Apple and HP do not support this solution, but it seems to work fine.
The same solution should work for printers from any manufacturer.

I have to get a new printer and soon... I'm zeroing in on an Epson
Stylus Photo 1400.

Will the SL drivers work with it? Apparently it ships with a CD-ROM with
Mac and Windows drivers. Will they work under SL?

 

[Daniel Cohen]

I have to get a new printer and soon... I'm zeroing in on an Epson
Stylus Photo 1400.

Will the SL drivers work with it? Apparently it ships with a CD-ROM with
Mac and Windows drivers. Will they work under SL?

I have no idea. What do Epson say?

And have you looked at the Apple discussion groups? there is one
specifically for Printing, Scanning and Fax in the Snow Leopard
discussions.

 

[MC]

I have no idea. What do Epson say?

And have you looked at the Apple discussion groups? there is one
specifically for Printing, Scanning and Fax in the Snow Leopard
discussions.

I just came from an OSX news group and got a reply saying that as son as
you plug in the computer Snow Leopard either recognizes a driver it
already has, or downloads one if it can't find the appropriate one.

 

[Phillip Jones, C.E.T.]

Go to apple website OSX.6 support and look for printer list. They have a
list of printers that have native support or supported by CUPS or
Guetenburg (?). Those types are generic and some features may or may not
work. I would suggest reading that list. Then decide upon what printer
to get. The two most likely brands to to have models to work with X.6
out of the box, is Epson and Hewlett-Packard. The other will likely be iffy.

 

[Diane Ross]

Go to apple website OSX.6 support and look for printer list.

Mac OS X v10.6: Printer and scanner software
<http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3669>

FWIW, I had to reinstall my Epson scanner and printer software and then they
worked. Stylus Photo R200 and Expressions 3200 Photo. Both older than 5
years.

 

[Daniel Cohen]

I just came from an OSX news group and got a reply saying that as son as
you plug in the computer Snow Leopard either recognizes a driver it
already has, or downloads one if it can't find the appropriate one.

Yes, that's true, but the driver it downloads may be a Gutenprint one
that does not have all the functionality you want. That's what I found
for my HP. So (following a suggestion) I reinstalled the Leopard drivers
and can now print, though it is often necessary to run programs in
32-bit mode to maintain all aspects of the driver.