So why should buy ON2007 ?

  • Thread starter Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell
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Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell

Okay, so I bought a tablet back in October, which came with a free copy of
ON2003.
So the new version is out today: why should I bother buying it?
I look forward to hearing back from you all.

C.
 
K

Kathy Jacobs

Adding on to Erik's great list:
- 100 Tags (formerly flags) defined at once
- Better then ever introductory documentation
- Napkin math: type in a formula, hit the equals sign and the space bar...
get the answer
- Print to OneNote from any app, then have it instantly searchable
- Multiple language support on search (for example: Print to OneNote
something that is in Spanish on an English system and you can tell OneNote
to make the text searchable as Spanish

I too could go on, but I'll let someone else take over from here...
(And if you want to see it in action, Betsy Weber from TechSmith did a
screen cast with me on OneNote 2007. Find it on her blog at:
http://www.techsmith.com/community/blogcomments.asp?thread=275 )


--
Kathy Jacobs, Microsoft MVP OneNote and PowerPoint
Author of Kathy Jacobs on PowerPoint
Get PowerPoint and OneNote information at www.onppt.com

I believe life is meant to be lived. But:
if we live without making a difference, it makes no difference that we lived
 
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Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell

John, Erik, Kathy and Erik...

Thanks for all your input! I'll go have a good look around. Certainly some
of the features sound very appealing. I also use software called Libronix
and 2007 can link to it but 2003 can't ... so I can see a move happening
anyway... I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth.

C.
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

If you really want to make sure you get your money's worth, then get the
trial version from http://trymicrosoftoffice.com
I would suggest to fully backup your ON 2003 notes before you install it
and make sure to keep 2003 installed (so no upgrade installation). Also,
don't let it upgrade your 2003 notes to the 2007 format. Rather, once
it's open, close all notebooks and make a new 2007 notebook that you are
going to use to play with 2007.
I am saying this because there is no good way to get notes from 2007
back into 2003. So if you upgrade your notes and use 2007 for those
notes for a while, you are locking yourself into buying it essentially.
Once you have used 2007 though, you are not going to complain about
that, because I am pretty sure that you wouldn't want to go back ;)

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
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***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
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Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell

Thanks Patrick! My only issue will downloading the trial is that they KNOW
it will create a dependency... the b......ds ! :)

Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound, I suppose.

C.

Patrick Schmid said:
If you really want to make sure you get your money's worth, then get the
trial version from http://trymicrosoftoffice.com
I would suggest to fully backup your ON 2003 notes before you install it
and make sure to keep 2003 installed (so no upgrade installation). Also,
don't let it upgrade your 2003 notes to the 2007 format. Rather, once it's
open, close all notebooks and make a new 2007 notebook that you are going
to use to play with 2007.
I am saying this because there is no good way to get notes from 2007 back
into 2003. So if you upgrade your notes and use 2007 for those notes for a
while, you are locking yourself into buying it essentially. Once you have
used 2007 though, you are not going to complain about that, because I am
pretty sure that you wouldn't want to go back ;)

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

John, Erik, Kathy and Erik...

Thanks for all your input! I'll go have a good look around. Certainly
some
of the features sound very appealing. I also use software called Libronix
and 2007 can link to it but 2003 can't ... so I can see a move happening
anyway... I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth.

C.
 
P

Patrick Schmid [MVP]

Actually, the dependency of you on 2007 will be a much greater issue
than the file format one :) Once you have experienced 2007, you don't
want 2003 anymore...

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

Thanks Patrick! My only issue will downloading the trial is that they KNOW
it will create a dependency... the b......ds ! :)

Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound, I suppose.

C.

Patrick Schmid said:
If you really want to make sure you get your money's worth, then get the
trial version from http://trymicrosoftoffice.com
I would suggest to fully backup your ON 2003 notes before you install it
and make sure to keep 2003 installed (so no upgrade installation). Also,
don't let it upgrade your 2003 notes to the 2007 format. Rather, once it's
open, close all notebooks and make a new 2007 notebook that you are going
to use to play with 2007.
I am saying this because there is no good way to get notes from 2007 back
into 2003. So if you upgrade your notes and use 2007 for those notes for a
while, you are locking yourself into buying it essentially. Once you have
used 2007 though, you are not going to complain about that, because I am
pretty sure that you wouldn't want to go back ;)

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

John, Erik, Kathy and Erik...

Thanks for all your input! I'll go have a good look around. Certainly
some
of the features sound very appealing. I also use software called Libronix
and 2007 can link to it but 2003 can't ... so I can see a move happening
anyway... I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth.

C.

It is a huge improvement over 2003:
Note organization (multiple Notebooks), collaboration (Shared
Notebooks),
drawing tools, full drag and drop, improved Ink parsing. You will
wonder
what you did without it!

Some more listings of new features here:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote/FX101759221033.aspx




Okay, so I bought a tablet back in October, which came with a free
copy of ON2003.
So the new version is out today: why should I bother buying it?
I look forward to hearing back from you all.

C.
 
J

Judy Reese

Carmen said:
John, Erik, Kathy and Erik...

Thanks for all your input! I'll go have a good look around. Certainly some
of the features sound very appealing. I also use software called Libronix
and 2007 can link to it but 2003 can't ... so I can see a move happening
anyway... I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth.
Carmen,

I use the Libronix Digital Libray System, vs 3. Is that the software you
use? If so, I'd be interested in what you're talking about re linking
with ON 2007. I hadn't come across that.

Thanks!
Judy
 
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OneDave

I share Patrick's enthusiasm about 2007 but strongly hope you maintain a 2003
fallback as he suggests. There area few 2003 "features" that have been
removed or altered in 2007--to its detriment. Run both versions in parallel
if you can.

Examples include a loss of the clear mapping of ON "pages" to printed output
''pages" and, likewise, of imported input pages to their original size. If
you import a multi-page document into 2007, you probably can't just
immediately print the resulting ON page and get back to your original
document. Importing makes pages smaller than their original and printing them
out again gives you odd page breaks.

If you use subpages a lot in 2003, you will be disappointed with their loss
of functionality in 2007. When 2007 added the ability to have multiple ON
notebooks, it dumbed down subpages. For instance, audio recordings want span
a page to its subpages.
--
Thanks
Dave

Patrick Schmid said:
Actually, the dependency of you on 2007 will be a much greater issue
than the file format one :) Once you have experienced 2007, you don't
want 2003 anymore...

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed

Thanks Patrick! My only issue will downloading the trial is that they KNOW
it will create a dependency... the b......ds ! :)

Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound, I suppose.

C.

Patrick Schmid said:
If you really want to make sure you get your money's worth, then get the
trial version from http://trymicrosoftoffice.com
I would suggest to fully backup your ON 2003 notes before you install it
and make sure to keep 2003 installed (so no upgrade installation). Also,
don't let it upgrade your 2003 notes to the 2007 format. Rather, once it's
open, close all notebooks and make a new 2007 notebook that you are going
to use to play with 2007.
I am saying this because there is no good way to get notes from 2007 back
into 2003. So if you upgrade your notes and use 2007 for those notes for a
while, you are locking yourself into buying it essentially. Once you have
used 2007 though, you are not going to complain about that, because I am
pretty sure that you wouldn't want to go back ;)

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
***
Subscribe to my Office 2007 blog: http://pschmid.net/blog/feed


John, Erik, Kathy and Erik...

Thanks for all your input! I'll go have a good look around. Certainly
some
of the features sound very appealing. I also use software called Libronix
and 2007 can link to it but 2003 can't ... so I can see a move happening
anyway... I just want to make sure I'm getting my money's worth.

C.

It is a huge improvement over 2003:
Note organization (multiple Notebooks), collaboration (Shared
Notebooks),
drawing tools, full drag and drop, improved Ink parsing. You will
wonder
what you did without it!

Some more listings of new features here:
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/onenote/FX101759221033.aspx




Okay, so I bought a tablet back in October, which came with a free
copy of ON2003.
So the new version is out today: why should I bother buying it?
I look forward to hearing back from you all.

C.
 
C

Carmen Gauvin-O'Donnell

Judy:

In the news.logos.com newsgroup under General, there are posts starting on
January 16th that explain that ON2007 can hyperlink to Libronix, but ON2003
can't. Those posts should explain pretty much everything to you.

C.
 
J

Judy Reese

Carmen said:
Judy:

In the news.logos.com newsgroup under General, there are posts starting on
January 16th that explain that ON2007 can hyperlink to Libronix, but ON2003
can't. Those posts should explain pretty much everything to you.

C.
Thanks! I'll check it out. Judy
 
O

OneDave

Hi Eric,

What is "tablet mode" printing? Maybe I missed a ON setting. I should not
need to print portrait-oriented ON content as landscape in order to see the
right page width (and causing a wrong page length).

What I meant by 2007 losing the association between ON pages and printed
pages can best be illustrated by this exercise:

Take a few pages of 8 1/2 x 11-inch content and print them hard copy to your
printer (not via ON--for example, I use PDF/Adobe Reader). Then, import the
content onto a ON 2007 page. I use the 'Send to OneNote 2007 printer' driver
to send my PDF original pages into ON. Don't edit your ON page. Now print
your ON page as hard-copy onto 8 1/2 x 11-inch paper using ON's print feature
(with footer set to none). Compare the original hard copy pages to the
ON-generated hard copy pages. You will see changed margins, such that the ON
pages will be smaller than the original content. The pages will break
differently, too.

I think that the hard copy ON pages should emerge looking exactly as the
original hard-copy pages would have printed, including page break locations
and margins, but they don't.

My work-around is to define the 'properties' of my 'Send to OneNote 2007'
printer to have a 9 1/2 x 12 1/2-inch [sic] page size before I send the page
into OneNote. That seems to help. If I'm solving the wrong problem, and
there are ON settings that will preserve the original content's pages, please
let me know.
 

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