Someone is getting copied on ALL of my e-mails...

A

anne

I installed Outlook 2007 and an associate of mine is getting copied on ALL
outgoing and INCOMING e-mail to and from my e-mail address. I do not show
any names in the bcc field. Dell support seems to think that this person's
e-mail address is permanently on a "master" bcc list. Could that be? Would
that effect incoming messages? If so, how can I delete it?

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling Outlook 07 twice and the problem
persists.

Would great appreciate any suggestions.....
 
V

VanguardLH

anne said:
I installed Outlook 2007 and an associate of mine is getting copied
on ALL
outgoing and INCOMING e-mail to and from my e-mail address. I do
not show
any names in the bcc field. Dell support seems to think that this
person's
e-mail address is permanently on a "master" bcc list. Could that
be? Would
that effect incoming messages? If so, how can I delete it?

I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling Outlook 07 twice and the
problem
persists.

Would great appreciate any suggestions.....


Unless you have a rule to forward a copy of all incoming e-mails to
another recipient, the only way that I can think of right now for the
other person to get a copy of your inbound e-mails is that you two are
SHARING the same mailbox up on the server. You don't mention if you
are using Exchange, IMAP4, or POP3 for the mail host. If IMAP4 or
POP3, do you know if each of you is getting an independent e-mail
account with its own separate mailbox? Many "family" accounts at a
home-user account at an ISP only get one real mailbox and all the
multiple e-mail addresses are just aliases to the same mailbox.
Contact your e-mail provider to ensure that you two have *separate*
mailboxes instead of sharing one.
 
A

anne

VanguardLH said:
Unless you have a rule to forward a copy of all incoming e-mails to
another recipient, the only way that I can think of right now for the
other person to get a copy of your inbound e-mails is that you two are
SHARING the same mailbox up on the server. You don't mention if you
are using Exchange, IMAP4, or POP3 for the mail host. If IMAP4 or
POP3, do you know if each of you is getting an independent e-mail
account with its own separate mailbox? Many "family" accounts at a
home-user account at an ISP only get one real mailbox and all the
multiple e-mail addresses are just aliases to the same mailbox.
Contact your e-mail provider to ensure that you two have *separate*
mailboxes instead of sharing one.

Thank you for your response. We do not have a rule set up. Our e-mail
provider is Comcast so we utilize POP3, however, this person is not a
"family" member and doesn't share our e-mail account. He is a business
associate of my husband. Everyone we've spoken to is mystified and can't
provide an explanation. Is there such a thing as a "hidden" rule that could
be turned on in the background somewhere?
 
G

Gordon

anne said:
Thank you for your response. We do not have a rule set up. Our e-mail
provider is Comcast so we utilize POP3, however, this person is not a
"family" member and doesn't share our e-mail account. He is a business
associate of my husband. Everyone we've spoken to is mystified and can't
provide an explanation. Is there such a thing as a "hidden" rule that
could
be turned on in the background somewhere?


OK. Firstly, how do you KNOW that this is happening? Do the emails that he
receives you are sending contain his email in the CC or BCC field? (That
would explain the receiving of mails that you send, but NOT the emails that
you receive). You need to check that.
Has that person got your email account set up on his machine with the "Leave
copy on server" set? That would explain the receiving of emails sent TO you,
but then, someone would have had to deliberately set up the account on his
machine.
Secondly, AFAIK Comcast is primarily a Web-based email provider that has POP
access. (A bit like GMail). Is that correct?
If that is so, and if your husband accessed the web mail function on that
machine for any reason, this third-party might be able to access your email.
However, that raises the question as to why would they want to?
 
T

Tom [Pepper] Willett

False. Comcast provides (secondary) web-based mail like other cable
internet providers, but it's primary (like other cable internet providers)
is Pop3/SMTP.

: Secondly, AFAIK Comcast is primarily a Web-based email provider that has
POP
: access. (A bit like GMail). Is that correct?
: If that is so, and if your husband accessed the web mail function on that
: machine for any reason, this third-party might be able to access your
email.
: However, that raises the question as to why would they want to?
:
:
 
G

Gordon

Tom [Pepper] Willett said:

I would consider the reply "false" to be a bit strong. "False" implies lying
or deceit, what I said would be better described as "incorrect".
 
V

VanguardLH

in message
Thank you for your response. We do not have a rule set up. Our
e-mail
provider is Comcast so we utilize POP3, however, this person is not
a
"family" member and doesn't share our e-mail account. He is a
business
associate of my husband. Everyone we've spoken to is mystified and
can't
provide an explanation. Is there such a thing as a "hidden" rule
that could
be turned on in the background somewhere?

"an associate of mine is getting copied on ALL outgoing and INCOMING
e-mail to and from my e-mail address."

So it maybe what is happening is:

- You send an e-mail. Whether you want to or not, this associate is
getting included as a recipient. This means the intended recipient
and this associate both get your e-mail.

- The intended recipient is probably replying but selecting to Rely to
All. That means that recipient is replying to you and everyone else
you included which is the associate. You sent the e-mail so you get a
reply. You included the associate so a reply to your email results in
the associate also getting a reply if Reply to All was used.

You: Send an email to recipient and to associate.

Associate: Gets your email.

Recipient: Gets your email.

Recipient: Uses Reply to All. That sends the reply to you and the
associate.

You: Gets the reply.

Associate: Gets the reply.

So perhaps the problem originates with you including the associate in
your outbound emails. That the associate also gets the replies is
incidental because the recipient of your emails is replying to all
instead of just to you.

When you look at the copy of your sent e-mails in the Sent Items
folder and open then (double-click on them or right-click and Open so
the e-mail shows in its own window), what are the list of recipients
in the To, Cc, and Bcc headers (the Bcc will only be shown if
non-blank)? Is the associate listed in those headers as an included
recipient of your outbound e-mails? If so, you are using a plug-in or
template that always includes the associate in every e-mail that you
compose. If not, the something upstream of Outlook is including the
associate.

I might've mentioned to use the embedded editor in Outlook instead of
Word but you say that you are using Outlook 2007. That version of
Outlook forces you to use Word to compose e-mails. So you might want
to look at the template to see if Bcc was specified. I don't use
templates (and I don't use Word to compose e-mails) so I don't know if
Bcc can be recorded in the template to always have a non-blank value.
Opening the copy of the sent e-mail in the Sent Items folder would
show if Bcc was non-blank. Don't use the preview pane to view the
sent e-mail. Open the sent e-mail in its own window.

You say there are no rules. Go check. See if any rules are defined
that start with "Check messages after sending".

See if a plug-in is causing the problem by starting Outlook in its
safe mode ("outlook.exe /safe"). That will load Outlook but without
any plug-ins. If the problem goes away, you have a plug-in causing
the problem.

Sending an e-mail using the webmail interface to your e-mail account.
Send a test e-mail to a recipient and then check if the associate also
gets a copy. That eliminates Outlook and anything running on your
host since you are telling the webmail interface up on the mail host
to send the e-mail (i.e., you are not using local programs to send
e-mail). If the associate gets a copy of your test e-mail sent using
the webmail interface, there is something screwed up in your e-mail
account. Comcast doesn't let users define server-side rules so you
would have to find out from Comcast why they are including this
associate on every outbound email sent from your account (when using
their webmail interface so nothing of Outlook or your host is
involved).
 
B

Brian Tillman

anne said:
Thank you for your response. We do not have a rule set up. Our
e-mail provider is Comcast so we utilize POP3, however, this person
is not a "family" member and doesn't share our e-mail account. He is
a business associate of my husband. Everyone we've spoken to is
mystified and can't provide an explanation. Is there such a thing as
a "hidden" rule that could be turned on in the background somewhere?

Make sure you don't have a server-side rule on the Comcast server.
 
P

Pat Willener

Gordon said:
Tom [Pepper] Willett said:

I would consider the reply "false" to be a bit strong. "False" implies lying
or deceit, what I said would be better described as "incorrect".

It has also very little to do with the original problem.
 

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