Someone should make a digital tablet that works with OneNote

[OneNote Fan]

There should be a digital tablet (smaller and lighter than the tablet pc)
with onboard memory for 100 pages of notes and enough battery life to get
thru 3 - 6 hours. It should work with OneNote so all notes taken on the
tablet get synchronized with OneNote on the desktop and the ink recognizable
as text. As many OneNote features as possible should be available on the
tablet, like pen colors, note flags and audio recording.

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http://www.microsoft.com/office/com...bcc7-316cd598e48a&dg=microsoft.public.onenote

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

There should be a digital tablet (smaller and lighter than the tablet pc)
with onboard memory for 100 pages of notes and enough battery life to get
thru 3 - 6 hours. It should work with OneNote so all notes taken on the
tablet get synchronized with OneNote on the desktop and the ink
recognizable
as text. As many OneNote features as possible should be available on
the
tablet, like pen colors, note flags and audio recording.

Considering the falling price points on Tablet PCs (Averatec's C3500 is
available for under $1300 now) what price point do you think we could
manage on such an item so that it would be profitable to develop, produce
and sell? And which would be attractive to the consumer.

It would probably have to run Windows Embedded for an OS; flash memory,
etc. USB only for interfacing with external storage (if any) in order to
keep the weight down.

I think such a product would probably get squeezed between the PDAs and
Tablets and thus be relegated to no more than a niche product; hard to
make a profit on that. And if it doesn't have significant market share it
would be hard for MS to justify porting OneNote to the platform as well.
:-(

It's an interesting idea, though, despite the practical hurdles.


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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm

 

[James Gockel]

But then wouldent it be more practical to produce a lighter tabletpc that
ran a windows embedded with tablet extensions? and instead of a hard drive
(which I assume makes the tablets so large) it uses a memory stick. two
gigabyte sticks are being made... no speakers, no modem, no ethernet...
microphone, headphone jack, and wireless card included... no cd drive... I
think it could get pretty small.
Entirely new design of the tablet market.
but then it would start to look like a palm pilot
If I could manufacture pcs... man i'd make some neat stuff.
-James

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

But then wouldent it be more practical to produce a lighter tabletpc that
ran a windows embedded with tablet extensions? and instead of a hard
drive
(which I assume makes the tablets so large) it uses a memory stick. two
gigabyte sticks are being made... no speakers, no modem, no ethernet...
microphone, headphone jack, and wireless card included... no cd drive...
I
think it could get pretty small.
Entirely new design of the tablet market.
but then it would start to look like a palm pilot
If I could manufacture pcs... man i'd make some neat stuff.
-James

How much lighter can you get and retain an decently sized form factor?
Some of these tablets are down around 5 lbs. already. Is the extra pound
worth giving up all of that?

As to the memory sticks -- my Tablet PC has a 60 GB hard drive. You going
to put 30 of those memory sticks into the machine?

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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm

 

[Erik Sojka (MVP)]

I don't want multiple devices. I have a Tablet I use for all of my
work/schoolwork. I need other applications and data when I'm not taking
notes. I personally don't think a OneNote-only device would sell.

The increaslingly decreasing form factors of laptops will fill the need
for someone who needs something more powerful and useful than a PDA and
lighter and smaller than a high-end laptop.

 

[James Gockel]

yes I would put 30 sticks in, it'd be cool!
Actually most tablets are around 3 and 1/2 lbs! and yeah, my tablet weighs
alot in my arms I'd give up some stuff for weight, if it was still
functional. Granted my idea isnt really something anyone would call
functional.

-James

 

[James Gockel]

True. I don't think a onenote device would sell either.
And I wouldn't want to be the man to invest into it.

What I want to see though, is tablets becomeing more like those in star
trek. Probably can't argue that they arent already. And we need little funky
buttons on our shirts so the Gov't knows where we are at all times. But then
we can also talk through it... and we can just talk to the computer in the
walls and have it solve complicated math problems, so no one needs to think
anymore.

-james

 

[Erik Sojka (MVP)]

With hookers, and blackjack! In fact, forget the blackjack!

 

[James Gockel]

OMG.
You did not bring up futurama. My girlfriend is in love with bender, its a
strange and cold relationship.
-James

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

yes I would put 30 sticks in, it'd be cool!

And it would cost more than $2500 just in memory sticks; before you add
the digitizer.

Actually most tablets are around 3 and 1/2 lbs! and yeah, my tablet
weighs
alot in my arms I'd give up some stuff for weight, if it was still
functional. Granted my idea isnt really something anyone would call
functional.

Motion Computing's slate tablets are probably a better solution.

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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm

 

[OneNote Fan]

Considering the falling price points on Tablet PCs (Averatec's C3500 is

available for under $1300 now) what price point do you think we could
manage on such an item so that it would be profitable to develop, produce
and sell?

I'm not a developer (JUST a user) and I don't understand "price points" but
there is a digital tablet on the market now for about $100 called DigiMemo by
ACE CAD:
http://www.acecad.com.tw/digimemo/dm-a501.htm

It takes pen-generated notes and digitzes them but, as I understand it, the
ink files it creates are proprietary and may not be compatible with OneNote.
It would seem you could take this technology and tweak it so the files
integrate with OneNote.

If you can keep the price around $100, I think students and others would be
interested.

 

[James Gockel]

The real issue stems from the fact that no one would buy it just for
onenote!
and you're destroying the entire idea of onenote, to get rid of the paper
part. Onenote is designed for digital notetaking, and if you had a pad like
that, that just adds a whole nother issue of the paper.
Wouldn't it be so much nicer just to be able to have a screen and digitizer
and have the entire windows on the pad too? (yeah, a tablet pc) Plus have
you seen the price of tablets??? If you plan on buying a laptop, you
shouldn't pass up looking at a tablet!

-James

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

It takes pen-generated notes and digitzes them but, as I understand it,
the
ink files it creates are proprietary and may not be compatible with
OneNote.
It would seem you could take this technology and tweak it so the files
integrate with OneNote.

Well since it's Ace CAD's proprietary system they'd be the ones who would
have to tweak it - MS has no control over that.


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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm

 

[appalcarp]

I think it's an idea whose time has come. I have a 1 GIG SD card in my
camera and can take 450 5mb digital pictures. I can see where it would be
easy to remove some of the postage-stamp packaging, using just the mem and
have a terabyte or so easily available, easily switchable, weighing almost
nothing. A couple of USB ports or so, a very flat screen and VOILA!

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

I think it's an idea whose time has come. I have a 1 GIG SD card in my
camera and can take 450 5mb digital pictures. I can see where it would
be
easy to remove some of the postage-stamp packaging, using just the mem
and
have a terabyte or so easily available, easily switchable, weighing
almost
nothing. A couple of USB ports or so, a very flat screen and VOILA!

A terabyte of SD memory would be ridiculously expensive. You would need
more than 1,000 of those 1GB SD cards to do it -- even if they were only
$30 each it would cost more than your car does.


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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm

 

[James Gockel]

Heh... hey, is that a crack at the quality of my car? I'll have you know, my
car is worth way more than $300.
And it would be 1024 sticks of 1 gig... just to equal 1 terrabyte. Yeah that
pesky extra 24... what would life be like without them...


-James

 

[OneNote Fan]

Thanks for all your posts. After reading them and researching what's already
available, I agree that it doesn't make sense to develop something in between
a PDA and Tablet PC. I like MotionComputing's slate pc and am looking in to
buying it.

 

[Chris H.]

Motion Computing just came out with another in the line last week: LE1600.
Looks pretty good.
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Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
Associate Expert
Expert Zone -

 

[Ben M. Schorr - MVP]

Heh... hey, is that a crack at the quality of my car? I'll have you
know, my
car is worth way more than $300.

1,000 times $30 is $30,000. You're not going to find 1GB memory
sticks for 30 cents each.


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-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-OneNote/Outlook
Operations Coordinator
Stockholm/KSG - Honolulu
Microsoft OneNote FAQ:
http://home.hawaii.rr.com/schorr/computers/onenotefaq.htm

 

[James Gockel]

WEll, now I thought this might spark something.
http://news.com.com/Photo+Samsungs+solid-state+disk/2009-1001_3-5717119.html

Samsung, announced a 16gig Solid State Hard Drive.... now tablets wont need
any moving parts! Using Flash memory, with a hard drive interface... replace
your HD, and never worry about dropping, and destroying the disk physically!

I think its neat, pluss!! it's gotta be lighter than a Disk... not that the
disks are heavy.. but cmon!
-JAmes