spacing between paragraphs: before+after vs. max(before,after)

[BenW]

FYI, we are still using Word 2002 here. Now for my issue, which I'll relate
through the following experiment. Let's say I have a short Word document
with the following three lines (all in Normal style):

First
Middle
Last

Now I select all three lines (Ctrl-A), RightClick->Paragraph..., set Spacing
Before=6pt and After=6pt, OK. In some documents the result is that there are
12pts of space between "Middle" and "First" and, likewise, between "Middle"
and "Last" (i.e., 6 + 6, the sum of Before & After.) Sometimes (never in the
same document, but in another document) the experiment yields spacing is only
6pts between "Middle and "First" or "Last". In documents with this latter
behavior the spacing is always the greater of Before or After.

Is there some "secret" attribute in Word that makes it behave one way vs.
another. This has driven me nuts for years. BTW, I LIKE the first behavior.

Thanks in advance.
Ben W

 

[Elliott Roper]

FYI, we are still using Word 2002 here. Now for my issue, which I'll relate
through the following experiment. Let's say I have a short Word document
with the following three lines (all in Normal style):

First
Middle
Last

Now I select all three lines (Ctrl-A), RightClick->Paragraph..., set Spacing
Before=6pt and After=6pt, OK. In some documents the result is that there are
12pts of space between "Middle" and "First" and, likewise, between "Middle"
and "Last" (i.e., 6 + 6, the sum of Before & After.) Sometimes (never in the
same document, but in another document) the experiment yields spacing is only
6pts between "Middle and "First" or "Last". In documents with this latter
behavior the spacing is always the greater of Before or After.

Is there some "secret" attribute in Word that makes it behave one way vs.
another. This has driven me nuts for years. BTW, I LIKE the first behavior.

You seem to have blundered into Word for Macintosh by mistake. What
*is* this RightClick of which you speak?

In Mac Word 2004, it is controlled by the preference setting "Don't use
HTML paragraph spacing". I think "don't" means add the spacings.

That might translate into Word for the Dark Side somehow.

 

[John McGhie [MVP - Word and Word Macintosh]]

Elliot:

You're correct: the setting is the same (Under
Tools>Options>Compatibility...) in Word 2002.

HTML paragraph spacing rules applies the "highest" of two spaces between two
paragraphs. "NOT" using it is the setting he wants, which applies the "sum"
of both spacings.

Cheers

You seem to have blundered into Word for Macintosh by mistake. What
*is* this RightClick of which you speak?

In Mac Word 2004, it is controlled by the preference setting "Don't use
HTML paragraph spacing". I think "don't" means add the spacings.

That might translate into Word for the Dark Side somehow.

--

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me unless I ask you to.

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Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

 

[BenW]

Your (and others) responce pointing me to "HTML paragraph spacing" was
exactly the answer I was looking for. There are several other check boxes
under Tools>Options>Compatibility that I will be taking advantage of as well.

Regards,
Ben W

BTW, RightClick is the "right" (or secondary) mouse button for us Windows
abusers.

Elliot:

You're correct: the setting is the same (Under
Tools>Options>Compatibility...) in Word 2002.

HTML paragraph spacing rules applies the "highest" of two spaces between two
paragraphs. "NOT" using it is the setting he wants, which applies the "sum"
of both spacings.

Cheers

You seem to have blundered into Word for Macintosh by mistake. What
*is* this RightClick of which you speak?

In Mac Word 2004, it is controlled by the preference setting "Don't use
HTML paragraph spacing". I think "don't" means add the spacings.

That might translate into Word for the Dark Side somehow.

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

 

[Clive Huggan]

Good to hear, Ben!

Elliott's comment, with a mere suggestion of mock-heroic Shakespearean, "You
seem to have blundered into Word for Macintosh by mistake. What *is* this
RightClick of which you speak?" was a gentle fun-poking at Mac users, some
of whom still use one-button mice despite the fact that Microsoft products
in particular are so much more accessible via right-clicking (they use
Ctrl-click instead).

See what you get when you stumble on a Mac newsgroup? Here be strange
folk... ;-)

Cheers,
Clive Huggan
(strange be himself)
============

Your (and others) responce pointing me to "HTML paragraph spacing" was
exactly the answer I was looking for. There are several other check boxes
under Tools>Options>Compatibility that I will be taking advantage of as well.

Regards,
Ben W

BTW, RightClick is the "right" (or secondary) mouse button for us Windows
abusers.

Elliot:

You're correct: the setting is the same (Under
Tools>Options>Compatibility...) in Word 2002.

HTML paragraph spacing rules applies the "highest" of two spaces between two
paragraphs. "NOT" using it is the setting he wants, which applies the "sum"
of both spacings.

Cheers

FYI, we are still using Word 2002 here. Now for my issue, which I'll
relate
through the following experiment. Let's say I have a short Word document
with the following three lines (all in Normal style):

First
Middle
Last

Now I select all three lines (Ctrl-A), RightClick->Paragraph..., set
Spacing
Before=6pt and After=6pt, OK. In some documents the result is that there
are
12pts of space between "Middle" and "First" and, likewise, between "Middle"
and "Last" (i.e., 6 + 6, the sum of Before & After.) Sometimes (never in
the
same document, but in another document) the experiment yields spacing is
only
6pts between "Middle and "First" or "Last". In documents with this latter
behavior the spacing is always the greater of Before or After.

Is there some "secret" attribute in Word that makes it behave one way vs.
another. This has driven me nuts for years. BTW, I LIKE the first
behavior.

You seem to have blundered into Word for Macintosh by mistake. What
*is* this RightClick of which you speak?

In Mac Word 2004, it is controlled by the preference setting "Don't use
HTML paragraph spacing". I think "don't" means add the spacings.

That might translate into Word for the Dark Side somehow.

--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

 

[Phillip Jones]

Ah yes! but for apple users to get that three button experience (two
with a Click wheel) we must avail yourselves of a third party mouse.

Yes I know about apple's attempts at a multi-button mouse even having a
cordless version.

If you didn't know it was, you still just use the one button. you can
still fake a two button mouse with a one button by holding down control
key and then clicking.

I've used a Logitech corded led mouse ever since OSX came out.

I have a Battery powered version that I find awkward to use I carry for
use on my PowerBook 17" its not only awkward it heavy.

I find myself though growing up on a one button mouse 95% of the time
using the left click only and going to the menu to do most stuff.

Good to hear, Ben!

Elliott's comment, with a mere suggestion of mock-heroic Shakespearean, "You
seem to have blundered into Word for Macintosh by mistake. What *is* this
RightClick of which you speak?" was a gentle fun-poking at Mac users, some
of whom still use one-button mice despite the fact that Microsoft products
in particular are so much more accessible via right-clicking (they use
Ctrl-click instead).

See what you get when you stumble on a Mac newsgroup? Here be strange
folk... ;-)

Cheers,
Clive Huggan
(strange be himself)
============

Your (and others) responce pointing me to "HTML paragraph spacing" was
exactly the answer I was looking for. There are several other check boxes
under Tools>Options>Compatibility that I will be taking advantage of as well.

Regards,
Ben W

BTW, RightClick is the "right" (or secondary) mouse button for us Windows
abusers.

Elliot:

You're correct: the setting is the same (Under
Tools>Options>Compatibility...) in Word 2002.

HTML paragraph spacing rules applies the "highest" of two spaces between two
paragraphs. "NOT" using it is the setting he wants, which applies the "sum"
of both spacings.

Cheers


On 21/9/06 7:42 PM, in article 210920061042339604%[email protected], "Elliott

FYI, we are still using Word 2002 here. Now for my issue, which I'll
relate
through the following experiment. Let's say I have a short Word document
with the following three lines (all in Normal style):

First
Middle
Last

Now I select all three lines (Ctrl-A), RightClick->Paragraph..., set
Spacing
Before=6pt and After=6pt, OK. In some documents the result is that there
are
12pts of space between "Middle" and "First" and, likewise, between "Middle"
and "Last" (i.e., 6 + 6, the sum of Before & After.) Sometimes (never in
the
same document, but in another document) the experiment yields spacing is
only
6pts between "Middle and "First" or "Last". In documents with this latter
behavior the spacing is always the greater of Before or After.

Is there some "secret" attribute in Word that makes it behave one way vs.
another. This has driven me nuts for years. BTW, I LIKE the first
behavior.
You seem to have blundered into Word for Macintosh by mistake. What
*is* this RightClick of which you speak?

In Mac Word 2004, it is controlled by the preference setting "Don't use
HTML paragraph spacing". I think "don't" means add the spacings.

That might translate into Word for the Dark Side somehow.
--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do not email
me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Business Analyst, Consultant
Technical Writer.
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410

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